Tammy Faye: "The doctors have stopped trying to treat [my] cancer"

[Snowflake]

Well, like SzczerbiakManiac, I sure laughed at and was disgusted by what the Bakers did, but have got nothing but warm feelings for Tammy after all these years. She's a pull herself up by the bootstraps kind of woman and I admire that. She's been loads of fun to watch and listen to over the years, she's left a rich legacy for drag queens everywhere. Whatever karma she's working out is pretty tough, so Godspeed Tammy Faye, you won't be hard to pick out of the heavenly line up, bring lots of false eyelashes with you.

[Alex]

No, I still come as close to hating her as I'm capable of hating someone who hasn't directly killed people for pleasure.

If there is a god and it lets her in, then that whole heaven is a sham not worth wanting.

[3894]

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

If there is a god and it lets her in, then that whole heaven is a sham not worth wanting.

Let's talk within Tammy Faye's belief system. Assuming she's still Protestant Christian ...

Tammy Faye knows this verse from 1 John "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."

Sin publicly, repent and repay publicly, as in 2 Samuel 12: 13-15. I haven't followed Tammy Faye since her public downfall so I don't know if she's done this but her repetence would have to be to God and also to those people she harmed.

If Tammy Faye genuinely repents of her sins against God, then she is forgiven and will go to Heaven.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by 3894

If Tammy Faye genuinely repents of her sins against God, then she is forgiven and will go to Heaven.

Within her belief system I have no doubt she believes she is going to heaven. By some odd coincidence, almost everybody who believes in heaven believes they'll end up there. I'm sure that among Hitler's last thoughts (if he held any real belief in heaven) was "Jesus, here I come..."

(While I consider Tammy Faye to be a significant player in one of the most malignant American social movements of the last half-century I am not comparing her to Hitler, just saying that no matter how bad the crimes the criminals generally think they're on God's good side. That is the amazing flexibility of belief.)

[3894]

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

I'm sure that among Hitler's last thoughts (if he held any real belief in heaven) was "Jesus, here I come..."

Oh, Alex. You played the Hitler card. Now I can't argue with you.

And I was going to ask you for data and everything. Oh, well.

[Alex]

What is there to argue? We agree she believes she is going to heaven.

I am of the opinion that if she is, it isn't a heaven worth desiring for a heaven so easy to get into already exists here on earth. I'm sure you'll agree that I am of that opinion.

So, what is there to argue?