The death penalty

[Nephythys]

GD-as I recall, given that abortion is a LEGAL Issue- and people get into such a twit about Roe V. Wade and the loss of LEGAL protections to abortion- then I would say the gov't giving us LEGAL permission to KILL the unborn is pretty much the same thing....and IMO a murderer frankly gave up their "right to life" the moment they chose to take someone else's life away.

.....and no one said a damn thing about a sperm being sacred....I made my comment non-personal and by no means snide....but I guess people who think the "right" to kill a baby they don't want is so valuable has nothing better to do than be snide to someone who feels otherwise.

We've been through the death penalty thing before- if used effectively it should be a deterrent, now all it has become is a life sentence to being a drain on the public financially, painful to the family who lost someone they loved, and a cash cow for the lawyers.

There should be a limit to the number of appeals- there should be a time limit to how long you can battle it- and it should be used quickly and efficiently.

All this lovely touchy feely stuff making yourself feel like you are more compassionate because you don't think it's right to put a killer to death (on the offhand chance that they may be innocent-which of course shows so much faith in the justice system) makes zero sense to me in the face of some of the other "values" held so dearly in this crowd.

I'm sorry- I really am..I should never never never have stepped in this thread. My apologies- please, continue feeling good about not wanting to get rid of murderers by giving them the same end they doled out so graciously to others.

I'm genuinely sorry- now I really am done. I think I'll go write a poem for CP.

[lizziebith]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

.....and no one said a damn thing about a sperm being sacred....I made my comment non-personal and by no means snide....but I guess people who think the "right" to kill a baby they don't want is so valuable has nothing better to do than be snide to someone who feels otherwise.

Uhh...Neph... that was a cultural reference to the song "Every Sperm is Sacred." Not a snide remark.

Deep breath, dude.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

GD-as I recall, given that abortion is a LEGAL Issue- and people get into such a twit about Roe V. Wade and the loss of LEGAL protections to abortion- then I would say the gov't giving us LEGAL permission to KILL the unborn is pretty much the same thing....

You call it "giving legal permission" I call it staying the heck out of it.

[lizziebith]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

then I would say the gov't giving us LEGAL permission to KILL the unborn is pretty much the same thing

As a woman who has had a miscarraige, an abortion, and a wonderful birth (of my 11-year-old son) I just wonder WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO JUDGE. My boy would not be here if it were not for the hard decisions I made earlier in my life. I will never equate abortion with murder because I HAVE BEEN THERE. Have you?

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

There should be a limit to the number of appeals- there should be a time limit to how long you can battle it- and it should be used quickly and efficiently.

I fear that speeding up the process would increase the error rate. I'm not comfortable with that.


Here's a question for those of you that are pro-death penalty. How about in regards to minors? Some of them have commited some pretty brutal crimes. At what age do we determine that all hope is lost and they should be written off as a lost cause. 18? 15? 12? Where would you draw the line?