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Old 06-12-2007, 06:00 PM   #21
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Wouldn't, technically speaking, ANY digital format be "lossy"?

And it varies at what sampling rate one finds the loss unacceptable. I have my standard (for ripping of any CD) set at 256. The iTunes default (unless it has changed) is 128. If I am making a copy of a CD for use in my car, I use Jam to copy.

I am curious what others have their iTunes ripping sampling rate set at.

ETA: To clarify my earlier post about how MG shouldn't be getting any loss on copies: I was thinking of making copies a la Jam.
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If the source is analog, then I guess that one could argue that any digital copy is "lossy" - what I'm talking about is the way that companies talk about compressed audio as "cd quality". If it's not lossless, it's lossy. Simple as that.

My setting for ripping to my iPod is 192. I can hear the difference, but it's acceptable. For saving to my computer, I use FLAC (lossless).
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Old 06-12-2007, 06:12 PM   #22
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I had to look up "lossy". I didn't understand for a second.
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Old 06-12-2007, 06:43 PM   #23
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Hee hee, GC.

But, now I see you can set your iPod to different levels for uploading????

Aw f'in crap. I have almost uploaded all of my music....

I have a headache. But,I had one before now I am bummed with a headache.

Off to check settings....
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Old 06-12-2007, 07:21 PM   #24
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Non-music geek question - How large is a FLAC song in comparison to a more standard size, like 192?
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Non-music geek question - How large is a FLAC song in comparison to a more standard size, like 192?
Here's what one reference says:

"FLAC is for efficient packing of audio data, unlike general lossless algorithms such as ZIP and gzip. While ZIP may compress a CD-quality audio file by 10–20%, FLAC achieves compression rates of 30–50% for most music, with significantly greater compression for voice recordings. This leads to bitrates of roughly 800 - 950 kbit/s.

Lossy codecs can achieve ratios of 80% or more by discarding data from the original stream. FLAC uses linear prediction to convert the audio samples to a series of small, uncorrelated numbers (known as the residual), which are stored efficiently using Golomb-Rice coding. It also uses run-length encoding for blocks of identical samples, such as silent passages. The technical strengths of FLAC compared to other lossless codecs lie in its ability to be streamed and in a fast decode time, which is independent of compression level."
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Old 06-12-2007, 07:38 PM   #26
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I had to look up "lossy". I didn't understand for a second.
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Here's what one reference says:
Heh, I love it when others do the work
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Old 06-12-2007, 09:05 PM   #28
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And if you want to play your FLAC files in iTunes, just download this.

Otherwise, there are several standalone FLAC players out there. Just check out this page.
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Old 06-12-2007, 09:18 PM   #29
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The iTunes download from today is tasty.

Also, I'm reverting back to the CD buying days, for some reason. I've also had a major craving to go vinyl, but that's a whole 'nother issue, which will probably cost me a lot of money somewhere.
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I'm still a fan of buying CDs. I probably will never stop.
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