The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis

I'm not sure about that since before the Twelfth Amendment, the guy who came in second in the race for president became vice president. I would think that if a controversy arose, the votes of any non-native type would have been invalidated rather than counted to see if he came in second.

Ah yes true. Rather I should have said, "If not for the last paragraph of the 12th amendment."

[Alex]

Not because of Arnold, but it is time to dump the natural born citizen requirement for qualification.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

I believe polls indicate a vast majority of Americans want the U.S. military out of Iraq.

Thoughts, Mr. scaeagles?

From an NBC?WSJ poll on 6/8-11 of 2007
"More specifically, do you think that we should have an immediate and orderly withdrawal of all troops from Iraq, or not?"

Should Should Not Depends Unsure
37 58 2 3

That doesn't seem like a vast majority. It seems like a good sized minority. I will fully agree that the war is being mishandled, and would be one of those in the 70% that says that.

The polling numbers are a bit vague on the specifics of the immigration bill, however, I did find this link which gives a wide breakdown of what the US public seems to want.

Polling report on immigration

Again, I don't believe in governing by polls. I am just shocked that the politicians are puching so hard for this particular brand of immigration reform when the populace is so much against amnesty in general and want real border enforcement.

[€uroMeinke]

Now that I'm driving and listening to NPR, I'm starting to hear more of the candidates. As a result I've come to realize that Hillary's voice really bothers me. I'm not sure what it is, but there's this strident monotone that sounds like she's trying project, or emote, or something - but it just drives me crazy. Not that hearing George Bush is all that great, and she still is way better than Nancy Polosie (sp?). But shoulldn't these candidates be more media-genic? Don't they have voice coaches? Since most of my news these days comes over the radio, I wish the candidates just sounded better when the spoke. More News anchors should run for President.

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Not that I'd go to Warren Buffet for advice on Constitutional law anyway, but perhaps he should read the whole thing, including, say, the 12th amendment.

Read the last paragraph

Meanwhile, the quip qoted in this post might indicate that Bloomberg himself stopped short of the 12th. Geniuses.

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

Never mind the Constitution...I'd like to see these gentleman enrolled into a logic 101 class as per this statement: "I know he(Arnold) can't be President but...he can be Vice-President"

If you read either link in GD's post, the statement "It states that the President must be native born, but it's silent on the Vice President." was NOT a Buffett quote.

Originally Posted by The Time article

Buffett thinks it's a great idea, and when he first heard it, he turned to the Constitution. "I wanted to see if Schwarzenegger could be his Vice President," Buffett said. "I think he could." It states that the President must be native born, but it's silent on the Vice President. "That would be one hell of a team, wouldn't it?"

Originally Posted by The Wilshire and Washington article

"I wanted to see if Schwarzenegger could be his Vice President," Buffett said. "I think he could." It states that the President must be native born, but it's silent on the Vice President. "That would be one hell of a team, wouldn't it?"

[SacTown Chronic]

Why should the veep have to be a native born citizen? It's not as if the office of the Vice President is even part of the executive branch.



/Dick "Yes, my nuts are that big" Cheney

[innerSpaceman]

Fvck impeachment: I wanna know why some of these guys (Cheney amongst 'em) aren't charged with treason.






and then, ya know, hung by the neck until dead

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

Now that I'm driving and listening to NPR, I'm starting to hear more of the candidates. As a result I've come to realize that Hillary's voice really bothers me. I'm not sure what it is, but there's this strident monotone that sounds like she's trying project, or emote, or something - but it just drives me crazy. Not that hearing George Bush is all that great, and she still is way better than Nancy Polosie (sp?). But shoulldn't these candidates be more media-genic? Don't they have voice coaches? Since most of my news these days comes over the radio, I wish the candidates just sounded better when the spoke. More News anchors should run for President.

Stephanie Miller (who I listen to religiously every morning on my way to work) likens her voice to the Martians in Mars Attacks!.... "Ack, ack, ack"

It cracks me up every time.

[Alex]

Conversationally her voice doesn't bother me but something about her tone and diction when giving speeches does.

Another point for Obama (and, if it comes to it, Thompson): I can actually enjoy just listening to them talk.

[innerSpaceman]

I just don't like it when Obama talks during movies.