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Old 07-13-2007, 10:24 PM   #1
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By the way, I hope nobody is getting upset by this. I am enjoying the discussion and while I am honestly expressing my view I hope nobody thinks I am just trolling or trying to hurt feelings.

I know it is a very personal issue for a lot of people here.
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Old 07-14-2007, 02:08 AM   #2
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I know it is a very personal issue for a lot of people here.
Well when six people you know who tried do do it on their own have died within the last year of overdoses, suicides, accidents, and let's not forget my dear friend Beverly who was strangled to death by her boyfriend when they both decided to do it on their own and relapsed (funny things happen when you're on meth, tee hee)(oh yeah, and he's in jail permanently) then you sort of get a skewed view of how well "doing it on your own" works.

I know not one person who has been able to maintain sobriety for an extended period of time on their own. NOT ONE. Some people are able to come back into the program, and some of those people are dead or in prison due to their using.

When you go through a facility where over 60% of the people who have been through it are sober FIVE YEARS LATER, and the 12-step program is an integral part of that program, then yeah, you tend to have a little faith. (When you come back from the dead it also tends to give you a little perspective, but I digress).

If we're all just a bunch of meaningless molecules spinning through space, then how bleak and pointless getting up in the morning becomes.

So yeah, it is a personal issue because it is something I have to deal with every motherf*cking day for the rest of my life and how DARE you call it a farce.

I'm going to sleep.
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