Deathly Hallows Book Discussion **LoTs Of Spoilers**

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by Mousey Girl

The Hiding Room didn't bother me at all. When you are looking for someplace to hide something the room appeared, just for your item. When they were looking for the room they were looking for the room that held all of the hidden items, so it showed them everything.

..but in DH Harry remembers the Tiara on the bust with the mop for hair- so he clearly saw more than an empty room to hide his items. He had seen the rest of it before.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

..but in DH Harry remembers the Tiara on the bust with the mop for hair- so he clearly saw more than an empty room to hide his items. He had seen the rest of it before.

Because, and I forget the specifics or even which book, he once before needed to see where everything was hidden, rather than just a place for him to hide one thing. I'm sure someone will fill in the details that I can't reall.

[innerSpaceman]

You mean all those 50,000 students and staffers really thought they were the only ones using the Hiding Room? All of them were maroons, not just Tom Riddle?


It's one think to posit that proto-Voldemort was a blithering idiot, but to ascribe that same stupidity to tons of people is a bit of a stretch.



Because as soon as one person thinks 'hmmm, I wonder if someone else has ever hidden something in the RofR?' ... the jig's up.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

You mean all those 50,000 students and staffers really thought they were the only ones using the Hiding Room? All of them were maroons, not just Tom Riddle?

I'm now on the fence whether I buy it or not. I had forgotten, the first time Harry found the room, thinking, "I need somewhere to hide something", the Room of Requirement showed him an empty room. And when he thought, "I need the room where I hid that," it showed him a room with just that item. So if that's all he (or Riddle) ever did, they might think not realize that there's a third option, the, "Show me everything" option. I guess the question is, how much of a logical leap is that? Did all of them perhaps think, "I asked for a place to hide stuff, therefore the room it gave me can't be found by anyone else," never really prompting them to think of another way to ask for the room? Perhaps....perhaps.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

I think it's a room of requirement, meaning Harry could only find the room with all the stuff in it because he actually needed to find it. As with everything wizarding, it's a subjective, vague concept, but it works well enough.

[Mousey Girl]

Thank you CP, that was what I was trying to say.

[innerSpaceman]

Hmmm, I'll buy that. Perhaps Harry's requirement being, well, really required was a key.

I still contend that other people might have really really really needed to find something that others have hidden, and that there's no big logical leap needed to go from "what a great place for me to hide things" to "what a great hiding place."


From what I understand, the Room of Requirement does not make a moral judgment. If Harry needed the diadem tiara to destory Voldemort, I don't believe the "Room" fullfills that request with any more preference than if someone needs the tiara because it perfectly matches the gown they're wearing to the Yule Ball.

[innerSpaceman]

And maybe someone will fill in the holes in J.K. Rowling's rather tenuous logic and wizard-rules/world construction, hmmmm.


This is a gaping one .... so bring lots of disbelief suspension wire.

[Brigitte]

I just looked back in 6. When he has to hide the Potions book, he only says he needs a place to hide his book. When the Room opens, it's full of stuff and he hides it in a cabinet. To mark the place he hid it, he puts the tiara and wig on a bust on top of the cabinet.

[lashbear]

Originally Posted by Brigitte

I just looked back in 6. When he has to hide the Potions book, he only says he needs a place to hide his book. When the Room opens, it's full of stuff and he hides it in a cabinet. To mark the place he hid it, he puts the tiara and wig on a bust on top of the cabinet.

Beat me to it !