Taking her baby away

[scaeagles]

Things like that happen here in AZ, as dear Tracilicious will attest to, I'm sure. Our CPS - well, if it isn't the worst, I can't imagine how any other state could have a worse one.

And on the subject of spanking.....I was spanked. I have spanked my children. It is rare, it is never done in anger, and is always done as a known consequence for an action, such as "if you do that again, you will be spanked". I turned out fine. My kids are great and love me and I love them. They don't fear me in the least, and in the way we've practiced it, it has never been abusive. It is never done in a bullying way. It is set up as a choice for the child and reinforces that there are often very undesirable consequences for deliberate actions.