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Old 09-24-2007, 03:02 PM   #11
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Point taken. But if you are going to go up to a podium and sing a song that you only know the first six words from, perhaps there are others that might be more up to the task.
Oh, I agree. It just made me wonder about the person actually filming the thing.

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Old 09-24-2007, 03:13 PM   #12
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Old 09-24-2007, 03:22 PM   #13
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It's shameful the way you all mock someone having a genuine spiritual moment in which the lord is speaking through this man in ancient tongues.
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Old 09-24-2007, 03:26 PM   #14
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You know, there are some pretty stupid things said at AA meetings as well as at church. People feel safe in these places. Feeling safe is nice, but it's not sacred. Nor is it terribly realistic.
True, but it doesn't reduce the jerkishness of the people who make the public private. Particularly for purposes of openly making fun of someone.
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Old 09-24-2007, 03:45 PM   #15
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Meh, whatever.

If I get up on a podium, in a place where there are possibly video tapes, and at the very least an audience... Well, then come what may - it was my choice to put myself out there. Ridicule hurts, but if he didn't want to get ridiculed, he should have brought up a lyrics sheet. Or asked someone.

ETA: I think it's generally understood that what happens in AA/Al-Anon/etc is said in a bit of sanctity. I can't imagine private matters getting put up on the Internet, then again... who knows?

It may be too late for that guy, but the next one to get up on that podium might just think twice about singing a song he/she doesn't know.
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Old 09-24-2007, 04:05 PM   #16
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Yes, if he wanted to avoid ridicule he should have been prepared. But that doesn't make it more appropriate to actually ridicule him. And it really doesn't make it appropriate to expand the ridicule around the globe.

If I'd been there I'd have laughed at him but I wouldn't be out at the door calling for people to come in and watch this guy make an ass of himself.

I'm bothered by the growing acceptance of the idea that because something can be recorded that it should be recorded, and that once something has been recorded it should be shared.

I was just in the restroom at work and there was another guy in there. I had the ability to record things. I should have put it on the internet, hell it is the guy's own damn fault for being excessively flatulent in a public restroom. Nothing funnier than good fart humor. That little sigh after the last big fart would have been worth an extra 10,000 YouTube hits.

Besides, there is something special about getting to be part of the small community watching the semi-private self-humiliation of a person. That is cheapened by YouTube. Just as the spread of easy access porn has distorted the sexual expectations of our young people, the spread of YouTube is going to distort the expectations as to humiliating behavior. It will be a race to the bottom. Just as 13-year-old girls have now seen and wish they had Jenna Jameson's boobs, 13-year-old girls will soon be striving to top the most devastating of home-tabed skateboard prat falls.

Give me another 10-15 minutes and I"ll really work myself into high dudgeon.
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Old 09-24-2007, 04:50 PM   #17
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I really think that the natures of bathrooms and churches are two different things. One is quite private and the other is quite public. The man's self-humiliation wasn't private at any point in the venture.

I agree that it is certainly more 'acceptable' to record and display these days and that's not necessarily a good thing, but there's no stopping the train from what I can tell; It's not worth my time to get worked up about it. It is worth my time to have talks with my sisters, my cousins, my friends, my future kids, but my sphere of influence is pretty limited outside of that.
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Old 09-24-2007, 07:41 PM   #18
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Hmm.
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Old 09-24-2007, 09:46 PM   #20
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