Discussion of California Ballot Initiatives - Page 8

innerSpaceman · 02-04-2008, 07:29 PM

JW: What's legal and what's right are too often not the same in my book.

Alex: It was just a pre-emptive (and board-historically humorously meant) remark that i thought prudent after my decision to use a (literally) colorful phrase in my passionate rhetoric about certain native americans.

JWBear · 02-04-2008, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

JW: What's legal and what's right are too often not the same in my book...

Ok... Why is it not right for someone to sell their own property. I'm not asking to be an a$$hole. I just can't for the life of my understand your objection.

Cadaverous Pallor · 02-04-2008, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JW Bear

Excuse the hell out of me for stating opinions. I thought that was still allowed.

Perhaps it was me, but your post sounded condescending. Here's an analogous comment:

"See, JW, a Democratic nominee usually gets the support of the labor unions, and the Republican nominee usually gets the support of gun lobby."

To which the appropriate response is: "Um, duh, I'm not a complete moron."

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

And yes, Alex ... if given the opportunity to vote Robin Hood style on forbidding the sale of an inherited painting for $125 million, I would.

That's not to say I agree such a thing should be up for a vote by me. But if it is, then Errol Flynn will be my guide.

I hate when people misquote Robin Hood. Robin Hood did not steal from the rich. The rich stole from the poor, aka, taxed them at an ungodly rate and used the profits to line their jackets while the poor starved. Robin Hood took the wealth back and gave it to its rightful owners. Robin Hood would not take something someone actually earned and give it to someone poor. Robin Hood might be construed to support tax breaks or tax refunds (depending on where your limit of "stealing" might be) but the basic Robin Hood concept does not apply to actual thievery.

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Originally Posted by JWBear

Ok... Why is it not right for someone to sell their own property. I'm not asking to be an a$$hole. I just can't for the life of my understand your objection.

I agree with JW on this and am interested in your response.

Alex · 02-04-2008, 07:30 PM

Beyond my initial comments, not really. But the SF Chronicle No endorsement mirrors my general thinking and provides a bit more in the way of numerical support.

By the way, on the issue of Prop 91, I had missed this fact but even the original proposers of it have abandoned it per this bit at the SF Chronicle (it was superceded by Prop 1A last year and is on the ballot without any support because of a legal technicality.

innerSpaceman · 02-06-2008, 08:23 PM

So, um, what happened?

Which initiatives passed and which were rejected by the good voters of California?

Um, I get most of my news from The LoT. What's happened? Where's the follow-up on this thread subject??

mousepod · 02-06-2008, 08:32 PM

91-93 were NO
94-97 were YES

the local measure S PASSED

Kevy Baby · 02-06-2008, 08:36 PM

Pope JP II is still dead

JWBear · 02-06-2008, 08:37 PM

E passed in LB.

€uroMeinke · 02-06-2008, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

E passed in LB.

E? I didn't get to vote on E

JWBear · 02-06-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

E? I didn't get to vote on E

It was by itself on the last page of the voting thing.

02-04-2008, 07:29 PM	#1
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	JW: What's legal and what's right are too often not the same in my book. Alex: It was just a pre-emptive (and board-historically humorously meant) remark that i thought prudent after my decision to use a (literally) colorful phrase in my passionate rhetoric about certain native americans.
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02-04-2008, 07:30 PM	#4
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Beyond my initial comments, not really. But the SF Chronicle No endorsement mirrors my general thinking and provides a bit more in the way of numerical support. By the way, on the issue of Prop 91, I had missed this fact but even the original proposers of it have abandoned it per this bit at the SF Chronicle (it was superceded by Prop 1A last year and is on the ballot without any support because of a legal technicality.
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02-06-2008, 08:23 PM	#5
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	So, um, what happened? Which initiatives passed and which were rejected by the good voters of California? Um, I get most of my news from The LoT. What's happened? Where's the follow-up on this thread subject??
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02-06-2008, 08:32 PM	#6
mousepod You broke your Ramadar! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,635	91-93 were NO 94-97 were YES the local measure S PASSED __________________ "Give the public everything you can give them, keep the place as clean as you can keep it, keep it friendly" - Walt Disney
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02-06-2008, 08:36 PM	#7
Kevy Baby Chowder Head Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yes Posts: 18,500	Pope JP II is still dead __________________ The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot verify their validity. - Abraham Lincoln
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02-06-2008, 08:37 PM	#8
JWBear Worn Romantic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach California Posts: 8,435	E passed in LB. __________________ Unrestrained frivolity will lead to the downfall of modern society.
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