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Old 03-14-2008, 07:57 AM   #1
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Perhaps he is still just on the Island and not actually dead. Good thought. I don't believe she ever said he was dead, just that she missed him, but Hurley did say "I guess we should go visit him or something."
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Old 03-14-2008, 08:51 AM   #2
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I've been trying to avoid spoilers all season. I do normally watch the teasers though because in the past they haven't ever given enough away to spoil things. However, I felt that Michael being the man on the boat has been spoiled for a long time. The writers/producers gave away the fact that Michael was coming back this season during a panel at some convention (the one where they showed the Orchid video). They made this announcement just moments before begging the viewers to please help others avoid spoilers. Knowing this makes all other "hints" completely obvious. Ben saying he has a man on the inside. The teaser saying we'll see someone we haven't expected to see. It all pointed to Michael.

Very cool flashforward/flashback interplay there. It had me fooled the whole time until Jin mentioned he had only been married a couple months. There was one clue that, had I been intimately familiar with the Chinese zodiac (or Wikipedia at my fingertips) I would have caught it. The store owner that sold Jin the panda mentioned that it was the year of the dragon...2000 according to Wikipedia. Ji Yeon would have been born in 2005, the year of the rooster.

It's interesting that the grave marker has his date of death as 2004-9-22, the day of the crash. So, yeah, I'm wondering if he's really alive or dead.
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Old 03-14-2008, 08:42 AM   #3
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People who go missing and are presumed dead are buried without bodies all the time. Or they could have buried the impostor body from the staged wreckage (staged by Ben, as implied by the ship's captain). Whether he was actually dead, or just still on the island, Sun would be in a position to never see him again, so he might as well be dead to her.
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Old 03-14-2008, 12:05 PM   #4
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Old 03-14-2008, 01:30 PM   #6
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I'm glad I'm not on the island as I'd be Milquetoast.

Ok, about Jin. He was just married 2 months, yet he worked for a Auto company (delivering the panda to a potential client). But at that point he worked for Suns father, right? Before that he worked as a door man at the hotel where the first met. So what's up? An alternat reality/timeline???
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I'm glad I'm not on the island as I'd be Milquetoast.
I was Milquetoast as well. I'm not sure what that means though.
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I was Milquetoast as well. I'm not sure what that means though.
milque·toast- a very timid, unassertive, spineless person, esp. one who is easily dominated or intimidated: as in a milquetoast who's afraid to ask for a raise.

Also Caspar Milquetoast.

An indication of the effect on the English language of popular culture is the adoption of names from the comic strips as English words. Casper Milquetoast, created by Harold Webster in 1924, was a timid and retiring man named for a timid food. The first instance of milquetoast as a common noun is found in the mid-1930s. Milquetoast thus joins the ranks of other such words, including sad sack, from a blundering army private invented by George Baker in 1942, and Wimpy, from J. Wellington Wimpy in the Popeye comic strip, which became a trade name for a hamburger. If we look to a related form of popular culture, the animated cartoon, we must of course acknowledge Mickey Mouse, which has become a slang term for something that is easy, insignificant, small-time, worthless, or petty.

Sawyer's nicknames aren't very nice......
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Old 03-15-2008, 04:06 PM   #9
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milque·toast- a very timid, unassertive, spineless person, esp. one who is easily dominated or intimidated: as in a milquetoast who's afraid to ask for a raise.

Also Caspar Milquetoast.

An indication of the effect on the English language of popular culture is the adoption of names from the comic strips as English words. Casper Milquetoast, created by Harold Webster in 1924, was a timid and retiring man named for a timid food. The first instance of milquetoast as a common noun is found in the mid-1930s. Milquetoast thus joins the ranks of other such words, including sad sack, from a blundering army private invented by George Baker in 1942, and Wimpy, from J. Wellington Wimpy in the Popeye comic strip, which became a trade name for a hamburger. If we look to a related form of popular culture, the animated cartoon, we must of course acknowledge Mickey Mouse, which has become a slang term for something that is easy, insignificant, small-time, worthless, or petty.

Sawyer's nicknames aren't very nice......
Yeah, he called me peachfuzz. (!?)

Re: names becoming common words, I've always wondered if Jiminy Crickets! was an exclamation, or an appellation, first. Also, malapropism. Named for Mrs. Malaprop, from the play, The Rivals, or was she named from the word?
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Old 03-15-2008, 11:44 AM   #10
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I'm glad I'm not on the island as I'd be Milquetoast.

Ok, about Jin. He was just married 2 months, yet he worked for a Auto company (delivering the panda to a potential client). But at that point he worked for Suns father, right? Before that he worked as a door man at the hotel where the first met. So what's up? An alternat reality/timeline???
Seemed to me that he was delivering the panda for Sun's dad in some fashion, hence the urgency and the deep bowing.
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