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Old 03-21-2008, 12:44 PM   #1
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I'm thinking Ben's behind the shooting. He gives them a route, and the two people trying to take Alex away from him get picked off. Coincidence? No such thing when Ben's involved.
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Old 03-21-2008, 01:01 PM   #2
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I'm thinking Ben's behind the shooting. He gives them a route, and the two people trying to take Alex away from him get picked off. Coincidence? No such thing when Ben's involved.
Oh, I definitely think he's responsible, sending them to "safety" after eeeevily eye-balling how that boy was holding Danielle's waist. Granted, he doesn't want her to get pregnant and DIE, but I think he overreacted a bit with all the shooting. Heh.
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Old 03-21-2008, 12:48 PM   #3
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GD, I thought the same thing.

Did they say why Whitmore didn't want anyone to find the island?
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Old 03-21-2008, 02:05 PM   #4
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Did they say why Whitmore didn't want anyone to find the island?
Tom and Ben have said he plans to exploit it for personal gain.

CP - I think Tom switched guns on him and gave him a gun without a firing pin.

sleepyjeff - The timeline definitely seems screwy. That was bugging me throughout the episode. It just seems like the writers tried to cram too much into too little time. Unless this is some strange island time vs real time phenomenon.
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Tom and Ben have said he plans to exploit it for personal gain.

CP - I think Tom switched guns on him and gave him a gun without a firing pin.

sleepyjeff - The timeline definitely seems screwy. That was bugging me throughout the episode. It just seems like the writers tried to cram too much into too little time. Unless this is some strange island time vs real time phenomenon.
Given how people get unstuck in time (Slaughterhouse 5 effect, of which the Lost - and old Buffy - writers are hugely fond), I'd say the chronology can't be trusted, and can be messed with. There was that interesting picture frame mention, in the house where Miles performed the "exorcism." Hmm, ponder, hmm.
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Old 03-21-2008, 03:23 PM   #6
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sleepyjeff - The timeline definitely seems screwy. That was bugging me throughout the episode. It just seems like the writers tried to cram too much into too little time. Unless this is some strange island time vs real time phenomenon.

Worse than "cram too much"........

Think about it this way:


When Micheal was watching the News(same as Frank and Daniel) they said it was the wreckage of a flight that crashed two months ago.

That means it was day 60(give or take) on the island.

Which means Micheal was watching a news cast in NYC at the exact same time as he was tied up in fakeotherville.......
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Worse than "cram too much"........

Think about it this way:


When Micheal was watching the News(same as Frank and Daniel) they said it was the wreckage of a flight that crashed two months ago.

That means it was day 60(give or take) on the island.

Which means Micheal was watching a news cast in NYC at the exact same time as he was tied up in fakeotherville.......
With this show, who says he wasn't?
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Here's what I don't get.

Micheal.

From the time Micheal left the Island until Naomi parachuted onto the Island only 20-25 days have gone by.

How did he go from the South Pacific all the way to NY, deal with customs, get a new apartment, drop Walt off with granny, have time for arguments and self loathing, multiple suicide attempts, healed from a car crash, meet Tom, get hired on the boat (that we were told was a hand picked crew by Naomi and Addabon) fly to Fiji, sail on the freighter all to meet back less than 4 weeks island time?

Wouldn't the hospital stay alone take that long?
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Old 03-21-2008, 01:09 PM   #9
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Here's what I don't get.

Micheal.

From the time Micheal left the Island until Naomi parachuted onto the Island only 20-25 days have gone by.

How did he go from the South Pacific all the way to NY, deal with customs, get a new apartment, drop Walt off with granny, have time for arguments and self loathing, multiple suicide attempts, healed from a car crash, meet Tom, get hired on the boat (that we were told was a hand picked crew by Naomi and Addabon) fly to Fiji, sail on the freighter all to meet back less than 4 weeks island time?

Wouldn't the hospital stay alone take that long?
I'd say your first few points (namely, getting back and dealing with entry) were probably taken care of by Ben's people. Somehow I doubt he got back in the country in any sort of official way, seeing as he'd been declared dead and all. But yeah, that did seem to be a rather miraculous recovery from the car accident. Island Magic I suppose is the only answer we have right now (or bad writing).
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Old 03-21-2008, 01:51 PM   #10
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I'd say your first few points (namely, getting back and dealing with entry) were probably taken care of by Ben's people. Somehow I doubt he got back in the country in any sort of official way, seeing as he'd been declared dead and all. But yeah, that did seem to be a rather miraculous recovery from the car accident. Island Magic I suppose is the only answer we have right now (or bad writing).

You know what, it's even worse than what I stated. Micheal left the Island on day 67. Ben called Micheal sometime before day 82(the day the others left otherville)....that's only 15 days!

Wait, it gets better....
Daniel, Frank, and Miles' flashbacks prove that the wreckage was found two months after the plane went missing, ok? That's 60 days.

So, Michael got all the way home, tried to commit suicide, twice, meets Tom in the alley--before he then saw the news report of the plane wreckage

60 minus 67 equals negative 7.
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