Lost is back!

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

I am not 100% positive that they used Juliet's voice to throw us off in the beginning of the episode (when an unidentified woman was in the shower), but it sounded like it. Regardless, it didn't sound like Kate, and since I was absolutely certain that the woman in the shower was Kate, I started off feeling rather annoyed. Hah. Also, a Ben episode is a hard act to follow no matter what, so I may be less critical of this episode when I eventually watch it again.

I did enjoy it, though I thought it was a bit all over the place. Mostly I had a strong feeling my old man crush was going to show up in this episode, and he did, so that made me happy. Yay, Jack's Dad, who may or may not be Jacob. (Or, maybe Jacob is able to make himself look like anyone he pleases....)

It was hard to get caught up in the Jack's island dilemma. I mean, no need to worry about whether or not he'd survive when we've seen him in future tense episodes. So I'm assuming that his getting sick had more to do with Rose's point: People don't get sick on the island; they get better. So, why did Jack get sick? And why did Locke, some time ago, begin to lose his ability to walk? Is it faith based? Is it a lesson they're being taught by the Island?

Are we sure that all of the mercenaries survived? I cannot recall how many there were in the episode before. I thought, for dramatic effect, they might all (save the leader, who is a somewhat recognizable actor these days) be killed. The scene of the smoke monster trailing through the sky and trees with violence reduced to the sound of people screaming was very striking. But others have survived the smoke monster's attack, and these guys are supposed to be pretty badass. I assume there's some reason for it, though, so until them...wait and see, I guess.

I do love that Claire saw her dad holding the baby. More and more, the writers are making it clear that these manifestations (ghost or other) are physical beings. Charlie could touch Hurley. Jack's dad could pick up the baby. I wonder if Miles could see Jack's dad because of his powers, or if Sawyer would have seen him, too. Anyway, Claire's disappearance at the end is creepier than just coming upon he dead body.

I thought the speed with which Jack hit his downward spiral was a bit forced, but it's in line with what we saw him going through in last year's season finale. Still, he was awfully quick to turn on Kate. Then again, she's still addicted to secrets, and those secrets being tied to a rival would be, I supposed, understandably upsetting.

And how much do I love Jeff Fahey on this show? BIG FAT LOVE.

And have any of you been watching the missing scenes that were (I think) shot before the season aired. A bit of retrofitting to tie current plot points back to older episodes...

[Gn2Dlnd]

My take (and that of the producers on their podcast) is that Ben can summon Smokey, but really has no control over him.

It.

Whatever.

[BarTopDancer]

Google is my friend.

It looks like you may need to upgrade your firmware. It looks like its' a pretty common issue with the 522.

[cirquelover]

My DVR or tv has been doing the pixel thing too, especially during Lost, and it's getting rather annoying. I feel your pain!

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

I found it very interesting that they survived smokey's attack fairly unscathed (though one was super beat up), but Jack got sick. I didn't even think about the whole "people don't get sick" thing until Rose said something.

Jack and kate alone once defeated Smokey(Locke was there too but was kinda on Smokeys side) in a tug of war for Locke....not a big stretch to imagine 5 well trained mercs couldn't survive his fury.

I'm guessing yes. They confirmed that Jack's dad was Claire's dad. I wonder if the reason Jack didn't want to see Aaron is because he reminds him of his sister. I thought Clarie was going to be found dead at the end. But we don't even know if she died. But we do know Sawyer choose to stay behind. I wonder if Jin did too.

Excellent! We know that Jack mentioned during the trial that there were originaly 8 members of Oceanic that survived the crash.....Since we know that Sawyer chose to stay that means he could have come home. Ok, what do all of the people who we know had a choice in whether they stayed or left the Island have in common? Sayid, Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Hurley, and Sun(Aaron most likely did not choose to leave the Island since he's just a baby).

Give up?

Every one of them was far away from the Swan Hatch when it imploded and turned the sky purple

The only other Lostie who was far from the Hatch at this time was Jin...whether or not he had a choice in leaving or not remains to be seen....but if my theory here is correct he was the only other person who had a choice.

Now wait a sec you might be saying. "Aaron wasn't far away when it blew"

Precisely.....I don't think they were supposed to take Aaron away from the Island and I also think Jack knows this and That is probably the reason he is freaking out...imho

Originally Posted by Eliza Hodgkins 1812

. Also, a Ben episode is a hard act to follow no matter what, so I may be less critical of this episode when I eventually watch it again.

Especially when it is followed by a Jack centered episode.....a little of him goes a long way and I wish the writers would realize that.

I did enjoy it, though I thought it was a bit all over the place. Mostly I had a strong feeling my old man crush was going to show up in this episode, and he did, so that made me happy. Yay, Jack's Dad, who may or may not be Jacob. (Or, maybe Jacob is able to make himself look like anyone he pleases....)

Maybe he's smokey....after all, the smoke detector was sure acting up

[Stan4dSteph]

So has everyone already seen The Orchid training video? Because the jacket been had on last week had the name Halliwax on it, along with the symbol for The Orchid station.

And I actually like Jack-centric episodes. We haven't had that many this season so I enjoyed it. Trying to figure out the chronology of these flash forwards is a bit tricky though. I wonder if Jack will get visited by his dad again? I would think it would take Jack actually talking to his Dad to get Jack to the state we saw in last year's finale.

Do we know all of the Oceanic 6 now? I was catching up with the official podcast, and they said that we should know by episode 7, but maybe they were talking about the 7th of the second half of this season?

We have Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sun and Sayid, but who is #6?

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Stan4dSteph

Do we know all of the Oceanic 6 now? I was catching up with the official podcast, and they said that we should know by episode 7, but maybe they were talking about the 7th of the second half of this season?

We have Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sun and Sayid, but who is #6?

Aaron

[Ghoulish Delight]

I'm still not convinced it's Aaron. In the Sun episode, they were trying to make us think that Jin was back. By that time, we knew about all of the others, including Aaron. So if they're counting Aaron, why would we buy Jin being there if we already had 6?

There's one more.

[sleepyjeff]

I am pretty sure it is Aaron who is #6...but this is Lost so who knows. In regards to the Jin episode; it wasn't until this last episode that we were even sure that Aaron was indeed Aaron...many speculated that he was Kate's natural born child...so at the time of the Jin/Sun episode Aarons' spot was still sorta up for grabs.

I've already seen the Orchid Video and remember the producers saying that it, along with the modisodes, is the only thing outside of the show itself that can be taken as canon. They also said the Orchid vid will be a key part of the show towards the end of this season

[Stan4dSteph]

But Aaron wasn't on Oceanic 815, he was still in utero. I guess it's basically confirmed that he's the sixth, but I still think that's a bit of a stretch. Lostpedia on Oceanic 6.

Oh, and I'm bummed that Rousseau is dead.