Super Tuesday

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Um, please clarify. Would you say the same of Democrats/Liberals? And if so, how is my saying it about Republicans/conservatives sad?

BTW, read my post again. I was talking about Republicans in government, NOT Republican citizens.

Okay, you have wholesale dismissed every action taken by a Republican in the House and Senate. Presumably, this counts for all past and future Republicans as well.

My comment still stands. It is sad that you make a wholesale comment about EVERY action taken by one group.

No, I do not make blanket comments about Liberals/Democrats or their actions. I support many liberal views. And I disagree with many conservative views. I say that with absolute certainty and conviction.

[Alex]

By visual support I don't mean news, rallies, etc. I mean signs of normal people preferring a candidate. I don't think I've yet seen a Hillary Clinton sign either in the neighborhood of my home or my office. Meanwhile signs of Obama support are everywhere.

Heck, other than on this board, I don't know a person in my circle of California acquaintances that voted for Clinton rather than Obama. It is a cocoon, I'm just admitting I was surprised by how misleading it was (though again Obama did have his strongest outcome in the Bay Area).

I agree that a lot of Republicans will vote for McCain despite their dislike of him simply to keep Hillary out. However, I think those are predominantly in states where Hillary isn't going to win anyway. In swing states I just don't see him being able to get out the independent vote in numbers strong enough to counteract the general malaise he'll inspire in the base. Yes, they'll say in polls that they'll swallow their bile and vote for him but when the day rolls around they just aren't going to find the energy to get out.

Really, I think Romney is the only person who had much of a chance in the general election and Huckabee ****ed it for him by giving the evangelicals a way to avoid voting for an LDS candidate without it being so obvious that's what they really wanted to do.

Of the 150 that ran for president he is the only one who has ever delivered the left's wet dream of universal health care at any scale. If he could have survived the primaries I don't think he'd have had any trouble moving back to the center. I don't think he had a strong chance but in my view it was better than McCain's or Huckabees.

And finally, how's this for screwed up?

[Alex]

I'll also admit that my visceral dislike of McCain is probably clouding my judgment on how others react to him.

I just can't stand the though of 4 or 8 years of looking at his ugly face, wondering what the hell it is he stores in those massive cheeks of his (particularly his left one) and fearing that any moment he will amuse himself and break out in that evil looking smile of his that somehow locks up his whole body into a rigid contortion.

[NirvanaMan]

Eh I voted for Edwards. Crap.

That's what I get for voting early while I had time to kill at John Wayne. First time I ever voted for a Dem, but given that I am not registered with a party, I didn't have much choice.

I liked Guilliani for the most part. So much for him. Nice strategy campaign advisors. I feel now like I have felt in nearly every election; don't like any of 'em.

I despise Hillary. Huckabee scares me almost as much as Clinton. I'm indifferent towards Romney, but I do like his business background. I agree with McCain on a majority of the issues, more than with anyone save Guilliani. But something just isn't right about him. Can't quite place it. And he is a bit liberal on gun control which is generally my primary voting issue.

As someone who votes on the issues, I guess I will have to go with McCain. Though I do like Obama. I really do. I think he is smart, well-spoken and inspirational. Almost like JFK in that regard. However, as with Hillary, I disagree with him on nearly 75% of the issues. I generally find myself liking what he has to say and how he says it, until he starts getting into the specifics on his positions: health care, timetables for a withdrawal from Iraq, etc...

Another disappointing election year.

[innerSpaceman]

Originally Posted by Alex

And finally, how's this for screwed up?

The article missed the (admittedly little known) fact that if Michigan and/or Florida simply have some kind of thrown-together bullsh!t caucus anytime between now and the convention, they will be back in compliance with the Democratic Party rules and the delegates won at the prior rule-breaking elections would suddenly count ... and all be within the rules.

[BDBopper]

Originally Posted by NirvanaMan

I liked Guilliani for the most part. So much for him. Nice strategy campaign advisors. I feel now like I have felt in nearly every election; don't like any of 'em.

I actually think Rudy's plan was a good one. But they did not see the rise of Huckabee coming (I don't blame them...I didn't either and I support him). If it wasn't for Huckabee things would be much different and I think Rudy would have won the nomination.

Out of all the GOP candidates Huckabee is the farthest right. His rise is astounding as he has run his campaign as if he was the nominee already by moving himself to the center (and maybe even left of center). If you are not paying too close attention to him you might be shocked that he has endorsements from labor unions (many of them the first time they have ever endorsed a Republican). He's the only Republican left to address the Lance Armstrong Cancer forum. He was the only Republican to go down to New Orleans on the anniversary of Katrina to tour the damage and address the victims. He's also the only GOP candidate left that was at the PBS debate on minority issues and the only GOP candidate at the King Day services at Ebenezzer Baptist church in Atlanta. You might say he's paying them lip service but these sort of things are consistant to what he did as Governor of Arkansas. However I am pretty sure Ronald Reagan would have done the exact same thing.

As far as McCain the only way I am voting for him in November (assuming he gets the nomination and nothing screwy happens at the convention...and I am reading about all sorts of wacky scenarios that can occur) is if Huckabee is on the ticket. Otherwise I am doing the write-in thing. I'm not staying home because the state and local elections are still important. I don't hold personal grudges by my political ones run deep. McCain-Feingold was and is an unconstitutional disaster.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by BDBopper

Out of all the GOP candidates Huckabee is the farthest right.

I couldn't disagree more. He is anything but conservative fiscally. Perhaps socially I could agree.

[BDBopper]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I couldn't disagree more. He is anything but conservative fiscally. Perhaps socially I could agree.

Granted. But Ronald Reagan was not "Conservative fiscally" as a Governor either. However they both left their states without debt because they balanced the budget.

And to be honest you are right Tancredo and Hunter were the farthest to the right.

[Snowflake]

MBC was right, stick a fork in Romney, he's done.

[innerSpaceman]

Thank goodness. Of all the two-faced politicians, he was the most dual-faced I've ever seen.

I once told him, in this thread I believe, that he could suck my fat one. And he could do it with either mouth.

I'm so glad he was sent packing. What a hypocritical, cowardly excuse for a man.