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Old 02-12-2008, 04:16 PM   #1
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Outside of bacon-y goodness, his position on school choice and earmarking were two of the things I appreciated about Obama, particularly school choice, reasons for which I won't go on about here.
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Old 02-12-2008, 05:21 PM   #2
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And likely his conservative-leaning school choice and immigration policies are ones I would vehemently oppose.


Doesn't mean I can't support him. You'll likely find a dozen of Hillary's positions I can't agree with.
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Old 02-12-2008, 05:27 PM   #3
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Early reports are that Obama's won Virginia. I guess MD and DC's polls are still open.
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Old 02-12-2008, 06:44 PM   #4
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Early reports are that Obama's won Virginia. I guess MD and DC's polls are still open.
Har har.. I though I saw he won Vagina. Which he probably already has... just sayin'.
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Old 02-12-2008, 05:30 PM   #5
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My understanding is that Obama was on board with the Bush-supported comprehensive immigration reform plan. Which is not a Republican supported program. That was an example of Bush going against his party, not so much Obama working against his.

But he has acknowledged in the past the obvious truth that widespread illegal immigration suppresses wages at the bottom of the jobs ladder and that this isn't good for poor blacks and recent legal immigrant communities.
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Old 02-12-2008, 06:57 PM   #6
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Create Secure Borders
Obama wants to preserve the integrity of our borders. He supports additional personnel, infrastructure and technology on the border and at our ports of entry.

Improve Our Immigration System
Obama believes we must fix the dysfunctional immigration bureaucracy and increase the number of legal immigrants to keep families together and meet the demand for jobs that employers cannot fill.

Remove Incentives to Enter Illegally
Obama will remove incentives to enter the country illegally by cracking down on employers who hire undocumented immigrants.

Bring People Out of the Shadows
Obama supports a system that allows undocumented immigrants who are in good standing to pay a fine, learn English, and go to the back of the line for the opportunity to become citizens.

Work with Mexico
Obama believes we need to do more to promote economic development in Mexico to decrease illegal immigration.

Barack Obama's Record
Crack Down on Employers: Obama championed a proposal to create a system so employers can verify that their employees are legally eligible to work in the U.S.
Fix the Bureaucracy: Obama joined Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) to introduce the Citizenship Promotion Act to ensure that immigration application fees are both reasonable and fair. Obama also introduced legislation that passed the Senate to improve the speed and accuracy of FBI background checks.
Respect Families: Obama introduced amendments to put greater emphasis on keeping immigrant families together.
This is an issue I am very much undecided on, but if I were forced to choose, this would be pretty close to my own tactics.

Obama is a Christian, and I do dig his take on liberal morality. The idea of being able to build a bridge so that religious people can be proud to be Democrats...it's another "idealistic" concept that can help us work towards reuniting this country.

If you're worried he's "too conservative", check out all of his other issues.
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Old 02-12-2008, 07:49 PM   #7
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Thanks, CP. Keep the Obama info coming!


And 'natch he won Viriginia, Maryland and D.C. No surprises.


Clinton's got all her eggs in Texas and Ohio. Her voters are more poor, less educated.

It's ironic that so many states moved their priimaries up just so they wouldn't be completely unimportant ... and it turns out the last states to vote will be the most important.

Double ironic that, with each state primary and caucus counting like never before, and more Democrats thus participating in the primary election process than ever in history ... the decision may come down to the same old backroom convention politics as the primary system was designed to overthrow.


The more things change ...
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Obama appeals to the young and the affluent, two groups I'd like to be a part of, so I'm leaning in his direction.
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It's ironic that so many states moved their priimaries up just so they wouldn't be completely unimportant ... and it turns out the last states to vote will be the most important.

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I know....I may have to change parties so my vote will be important for once
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Obama appeals to the young and the affluent, two groups I'd like to be a part of, so I'm leaning in his direction.
Which are you more likely to achieve?
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