Yes, we can.

[€uroMeinke]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Which are you more likely to achieve?

With the sale of my soul I get those plus one other attribute of my choosing

[innerSpaceman]

How funny. Even though i most identify with the young and the affluent, i'm lately considering working class and older Democrats as deserving underdogs in the political process.

[CoasterMatt]

Instead of the word bitch, I think I'll use a visual for another word used to describe Hillary...

[Not Afraid]

And, this is why this country is not ready for a female president.

I was trying to think of another female world leader who was a "gentle flower of a woman". i went through quite a few...... Golda Maier, Margaret Thatcher, Benazir Bhutto, Queen Victoria, Indira Gandhi, Catherine the greati .... I couldn't come up with one.

[BarTopDancer]

This country is ready for a female president that wouldn't lead us down further than we already are. Who doesn't have the reputation that Hillary has. What slander, horrible things did we hear about Margret Thatcher or Benazir Bhutto?

Hillary has a reputation that precedes her, and it's not a good one.

[Alex]

I'd really prefer to see people not consider Clinton the best choice to run the country without that making it ok to call her bitch and ****, even in jest, any more than the same decision about Obama would make it ok to break out the ******s and porch monkeys followed by winks.

[Not Afraid]

Originally Posted by Alex

I'd really prefer to see people not consider Clinton the best choice to run the country without that making it ok to call her bitch and ****, even in jest, any more than the same decision about Obama would make it ok to break out the ******s and porch monkeys followed by winks.

THANK YOU!!!!!!

(Were you in bed with us last night? You distilled the conversation into one strong drink.)

[LSPoorEeyorick]

Visible Alex mojo. Hear, hear.

And I'm pretty sure some terrible things were said about Bhutto by those who didn't like her.

[CoasterMatt]

Originally Posted by LSPoorEeyorick

Visible Alex mojo. Hear, hear.

And I'm pretty sure some terrible things were said about Bhutto by those who didn't like her.

I've got pictures of posters put up by people who didn't like Bhutto- far worse things were said about her.

Just to clarify, I don't like Hillary, but I wouldn't describe her as anything more than a very driven person- not at all in the realm of what I use 'bitch' for.

Not to derail the thread too much, but I've heard several black coworkers say that they won't vote for Obama, because he's not black enough. What a weird world.

[BarTopDancer]

I didn't mean to imply that it's ok to call Hillary a bitch or any other names, nor is it ok to slander. I was trying to convey that I think this country is ready for a woman president, but that woman is not Hillary.