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Old 05-07-2008, 09:38 AM   #1
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I could see someone in Hillary's position staying in the race if the leader was--from my perspective--a dangerous demagogue who had pulled the wool over the public's eyes. However, unless she's going to explode his candicacy and say he does not deserve to be president over McCain, I don't see any purpose to her continuing.

And while Bill has not been at his best for years, the only people who should have resigned in shame over the impeachment scandal were the Republican Congress and Kenneth Starr.
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:39 AM   #2
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Never mind. Been there, argued that.
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Old 05-07-2008, 10:16 AM   #3
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The point is, the more they rip at eachother, the more damage done to the eventual nominee.
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Old 05-07-2008, 10:30 AM   #4
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Oh, you don't think McCain is going to rip at the nominee?


And if lapel pins and the views of someone's pastor are going to guide the prevailing voters, nothing much maters anyway.


Where' s the damage done to Obama because of LapelPinGate and PastorGate? He won decisively in North Carolina, and got nearly half the vote in Indiana. Oh, he's crushed. The damage is done, it's over.
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Old 05-07-2008, 10:36 AM   #5
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Of course McCain will rip at the nominee. But at least if he's doing it, he takes some heat onto himself for running a negative campaign. Right now, he's getting a free ride while they rip into each other and he gets to stand on the sidelines and not get his hands dirty.
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His stance on taxes. He has said he will raise taxes, both income and capital gains. He is for wind fall profits taxes.

I believe he is ignorant in terms of foreign policy. I honestly don't know what his foreign policy views are on many things, but most things I hear him say are bothersome to me (such as previously discussed viewpoints on Iran in particular). He was harping on Hillary for not cosponsoring a bill that would try to outlaw OPEC. Yikes. That is either ridiculous or scarily ignorant or both.

His voting record is ranked as the most liberal in the Senate (which I realize is a plus for many who post here).

Those would be the primary things, but that covers the most important things to me - tax policy, dealing with terrorists and rogue states, and how he has voted on issues before him.

As a person, I believe he's a decent guy. I'm a policy guy. I will say that none of the candidates will get my enthusiastic support, and McCain is the least scary to me of the three.
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His stance on taxes. He has said he will raise taxes
Is borrowing money from China the better way to pay for our spending?
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Dear Hillary supporters:

When If Obama officially receives the Democratic nomination for President, will you then toss your support over to him? Vote McCain? Stay Home?
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Dear Hillary supporters:

When If Obama officially receives the Democratic nomination for President, will you then toss your support over to him? Vote McCain? Stay Home?
I will, without hesitation, toss my support to Obama. This crap about, "if my candidate doesn't win, I'll vote for McCain or just not vote" peeves me to no end.

There are two Supreme Court Justices that are not likely to last for another four years. If they were to be replaced by the types of judges that McCain has pledged to support, we are royally screwed. I urge anyone who is contemplating following through on their professed threat to vote for McCain if they candidate doesn't win the nomination to carefully consider the ramifications of a judicial branch that is completely lopsided before making that decision.

Hell, I even know of a few conservatives who shudder at that prospect and have cited it as the number one reason they will not vote for McCain.
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Hell, I even know of a few conservatives who shudder at that prospect and have cited it as the number one reason they will not vote for McCain.
Different worlds....justice openings are one of the only reasons I would vote FOR McCain.

If Obama wins, I'm going to find it amusing should his nominations be filibustered in the same way Bush's were, listening to the left side of the aisle screech about how unfair that is.

Does it make it right? No, just like WB alluded to with the open primaries. I hate open primaries. Doesn't stop me from enjoying the turmoil. Maybe no both sides will finally agree that open primaries are a bad idea.

BY the way....as far as counting all votes....if Florida and Michigan were counter, wouldn't Hillary have the popular vote lead? I thoought I heard that. What the dems choose to do is their own business. They wouldn't be in this mess if they hadn't set up their primaries as porportionally awarded so that super delegates could make the decision. They've gotten just what they have asked for.
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