CA Supreme Court to rule on Gay Marriage today (5/15) at 10:00am

[Gemini Cricket]

I applaud the marriage ruling for the rights aspect. But without the Federal government getting on board, it's still kinda sh!tty.
I'm in the marriage camp for a couple of reasons.
I like the idea that someone says "That's it, you're the one and I'm going to let you and the world know." It puts my mind at ease somehow.
And I like the idea of a big celebration with all my fam and friends at a ceremony. I guess you could do it without the ceremony, but I've always wanted one for me. Not to mention the gifts...!

Yeah, the man of my dreams could just say that there's no one else, but a public display of commitment with gifts would be even better.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

And I like the idea of a big celebration with all my fam and friends at a ceremony. I guess you could do it without the ceremony, but I've always wanted one for me. Not to mention the gifts...!

Yeah, the man of my dreams could just say that there's no one else, but a public display of commitment with gifts would be even better.

But what does that have to do with law? I'd much prefer that the government, at any level, had nothing to do with marriage between anyone. You shouldn't have to sign a paper and pay for a license to have a big party. But since it's far too intertwined in our culture to separate it out now, then it definitely should be open to anyone and everyone.

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

But what does that have to do with law? I'd much prefer that the government, at any level, had nothing to do with marriage between anyone. But since it's far to intertwined in our culture to separate it out now, then it definitely should be open to anyone and everyone.

I guess on a personal level it has nothing to do with law. I agree that the gov't should keep out of it, but, you're right, it's in it.

I want the Federal Government to recognize my marriage. I want the country I'm in to acknowledge me and my husband the same way as every straight couple who has been married. I want to know that we're equal in the eyes of our gov't. Because right now, we're not.

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

I applaud the marriage ruling for the rights aspect. But without the Federal government getting on board, it's still kinda sh!tty.

At first blush, I was kind of in the same camp. But then I realized that you can't change the world overnight: this is just one of many steps in the march. Within a few short years, it will be a nationwide (legal) acceptance and then within our lifetime, we will be wondering why there was ever such a fuss.

The masses are slow at changing, especially in mindset.

[Gemini Cricket]

Yep. Americans got used to miscegenation didn't they? Well, maybe not all Americans...

[Chernabog]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

At first blush, I was kind of in the same camp. But then I realized that you can't change the world overnight: this is just one of many steps in the march.

It may also another step in the legalization of federal recognition, via the U.S. Constitution's "Fair Faith and Credit" clause (and the unconstitutionality of DOMA).

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

When's the first meeting? Where?

I only talked to Tom Watson for a few minutes about this -- all he said is Tuesday nights so far, and there may be another meeting Wednesdays. Tom and his partner live off of Mulholland, but I'm not sure where the meetings are. I'll email info@lovehonorcherish.org and if I don't hear back by tomorrow I'll give Tom a call at work.

[NirvanaMan]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

But what does that have to do with law? I'd much prefer that the government, at any level, had nothing to do with marriage between anyone. You shouldn't have to sign a paper and pay for a license to have a big party. But since it's far too intertwined in our culture to separate it out now, then it definitely should be open to anyone and everyone.

Well this is spectacularly unusual and worthy of celebration in and of itself. GD, we completely agree on this.

That is my position to a T.