Do You Believe? - Page 7

Ghoulish Delight · 08-06-2008, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

GD, I'm having a hard time wrappping my head around your definition of belief such that it only applies to things for which there is evidence.

I didn't say that. I have no problem with people believing things that don't have evidence (though I can't bring myself to do it). I have a problem with people trying to convince me that something that is a matter of belief is actually a matter of science.

"I believe prayer works." I have no problem with that statement, though I disagree.

"I believe prayer works because of the nature of quantum particles," I have a problem with.

innerSpaceman · 08-06-2008, 10:11 AM

Ah, gotcha.

I believe in ghosts because I saw one, and observed evidence of others.

I believe in the innocence of Lee Harvey Oswald because of my personal, hardly exhaustive investigation.

I believe in the power of thought to affect the universe because of revelation under altered and improved states of consciousness.

I believe in God simply because I choose to, and despite the urgings of my forebears - against whom I would normally rebel.

It's a mish-mash.

Cadaverous Pallor · 08-06-2008, 10:38 AM

There was one time we were taking the freeway to LA and a very shiny speck appeared in the sky ahead of us. The sun was setting, so the reflection was very bright. It was impossible to decipher how far away it was, how large it was, or what the heck it could be. It moved a bit, seemingly not in the way a helicopter or airplane would. It was rather intriguing.

Did I ever believe it was something "unexplainable"? No. That's not how my brain works. I really wanted to know what it was, is all. But it was the type of thing where you just know other people are looking at it going "there's no WAY that's normal! It HAS TO BE a UFO!"

Capt Jack · 08-06-2008, 10:53 AM

technically, any object in flight you cannot immediately identify would be considered an unidentified flying object, wouldnt it?

it makes no assumption to be alien or extra terrestrial...just that you cant tell/dont know what it was.

yes?

Cadaverous Pallor · 08-06-2008, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Capt Jack

technically, any object in flight you cannot immediately identify would be considered an unidentified flying object, wouldnt it?

it makes no assumption to be alien or extra terrestrial...just that you cant tell/dont know what it was.

yes?

Yes, but the meaning of "UFO" has changed.

JWBear · 08-06-2008, 10:54 AM

^ yes.

Gemini Cricket · 08-06-2008, 10:57 AM

Can they still call that book "The Secret" now that everyone knows what it's about?

innerSpaceman · 08-06-2008, 11:01 AM

Yes ... just paste "Worst Kept" in small print over the title.

Not Afraid · 08-06-2008, 11:34 AM

Or just whisper "Vagina".

Moonliner · 08-06-2008, 11:39 AM

Wake up people! It's aliens all right. Hoards of them. Hell we even have three of them here on LoT posing as ~~conservatives~~ regular users.

08-06-2008, 10:11 AM	#2
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Ah, gotcha. I believe in ghosts because I saw one, and observed evidence of others. I believe in the innocence of Lee Harvey Oswald because of my personal, hardly exhaustive investigation. I believe in the power of thought to affect the universe because of revelation under altered and improved states of consciousness. I believe in God simply because I choose to, and despite the urgings of my forebears - against whom I would normally rebel. It's a mish-mash.
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08-06-2008, 10:38 AM	#3
Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	There was one time we were taking the freeway to LA and a very shiny speck appeared in the sky ahead of us. The sun was setting, so the reflection was very bright. It was impossible to decipher how far away it was, how large it was, or what the heck it could be. It moved a bit, seemingly not in the way a helicopter or airplane would. It was rather intriguing. Did I ever believe it was something "unexplainable"? No. That's not how my brain works. I really wanted to know what it was, is all. But it was the type of thing where you just know other people are looking at it going "there's no WAY that's normal! It HAS TO BE a UFO!" __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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08-06-2008, 10:53 AM	#4
Capt Jack check your head Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,174	technically, any object in flight you cannot immediately identify would be considered an unidentified flying object, wouldnt it? it makes no assumption to be alien or extra terrestrial...just that you cant tell/dont know what it was. yes? __________________ a clear conscience is a sure sign of a fuzzy memory
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08-06-2008, 10:54 AM	#6
JWBear Worn Romantic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach California Posts: 8,435	^ yes. __________________ Unrestrained frivolity will lead to the downfall of modern society.
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08-06-2008, 10:57 AM	#7
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Can they still call that book "The Secret" now that everyone knows what it's about?
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08-06-2008, 11:01 AM	#8
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Yes ... just paste "Worst Kept" in small print over the title.
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08-06-2008, 11:34 AM	#9
Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	Or just whisper "Vagina".
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08-06-2008, 11:39 AM	#10
Moonliner 8/30/14 - Disneyland -10k or Bust. Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9,022	Wake up people! It's aliens all right. Hoards of them. Hell we even have three of them here on LoT posing as ~~conservatives~~ regular users. __________________ - Taking it one step at a time.
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