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Old 09-01-2008, 10:42 AM   #1
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17, pregnant, not married... tsk tsk tsk. Good thing Palin's a Republican or else there'd be controversy.
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Old 09-01-2008, 12:39 PM   #2
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HA! I have three and three is FAR too many for me.
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Old 09-01-2008, 01:05 PM   #3
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Nothing matches the glee I feel when someone so socially conservative has to eat a big piles of public humiliation. I love watching the little dance they always seem to do to get out of it.
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Old 09-01-2008, 01:29 PM   #4
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Are you talking about her daughter being pregnant? How has she danced regarding this? She's come right out and addressed it and asked for privacy for her daughter....and in fact brought it forth herself due to the quite spiteful and vicious left wing rumors that Trig is not hers.
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....and in fact brought it forth herself due to the quite spiteful and vicious left wing rumors that Trig is not hers.
Interestingly enough, while that story was inaccurate (and it was never reported as anything more than speculation) it did bring out an interesting concern about Palin's judgment that is certainly more than a rumor. It's based on what she said after she gave birth.

As she tells the story, she was in Texas when she felt herself leaking amniotic fluid. Rather than check into a hospital immediately, which is what I understand is pretty standard procedure, she not only went on to give the speech, but then proceeded to board an 8-hour flight back to Alaska because "her and her husband didn't want the baby of an Alaskan Governor to be born in Texas." Landing in Alaska, they then made another 45 minute drive to small hospital, rather than go to the medical facilities that were close to the Anchorage airport.

She says that her doctor gave her the OK for the flight, but a number of doctors have weighed in on this and said that no doctor in his right mine would have. Besides the risk of the baby being born premature while in flight, there is also a very serious risk of infection setting in once the water has broken. Quite a few babies have died from these infections, which can set in within hours. No matter how you slice it, she put the baby at extreme risk by making this flight, rather than seeking medical attention at the location she was at. And if nothing else, I would say this falls under the category of extremely poor judgment as well.
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Old 09-01-2008, 05:12 PM   #6
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Boy that McCain is a real asshole stealing your moment in the sun. Will this change your vote?
You said it....but no, I am happy with his new choice.

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Biden should go after Palin with everything he's got and she should go after him likewise. The fact that it was even brought up shows the perception of a less-qualified candidate in McCain's running mate.
Biden would be wise to lay off discussing experience or qualifications.......Palin has more executive experience(and the office of President is an executive position) then Biden, McCain, and Obama combined

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I don't think any significant number of Hillary supporters will be drawn to Palin.
In a close state(such as Florida 2000) it won't take but a few score of such voters
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Old 09-01-2008, 05:20 PM   #7
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Biden would be wise to lay off discussing experience or qualifications.......Palin has more executive experience(and the office of President is an executive position) then Biden, McCain, and Obama combined

What I've found most interesting about this line of argument that has solidied in the last couple of days is that everybody is trying so hard to sell it that if bought into one must inevitably come to the conclusion that Palin is the most qualified presidential candidate on ticket. To that I ask, if rather than being selected for VP she had actually tried to campaign for president, would a single Republican anywhere in the country have bought the idea that her mayorship and 18 months as governor were great qualifications?

Now, I am fine with her qualifications because I don't think there is any such thing when it comes to being president; and generally the definition of suitable experience changes from person-to-person to magically align with whatever candidate they are currently supporting. I just think the facility with which Republicans are (on average) buying this line is a particularly amazing example of the art.

Sorry to quote a Democrat but I think Michael Kinsley said it well yesterday (and I apply this to both sides):

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Old 09-01-2008, 01:38 PM   #8
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I am appalled at Palin being chosen in large part because she's demonstrated almost immediately on taking office that she is more than happy to use her office for personal reasons. She tried to get her sister's exhusband fired for nothing more than being involved in a nasty divorce. When that attempt failed, she got his boss fired. WTF? Not cool.

McCain has been harping on Obama for having no experience, and yet he picks this girl? Who has very little experience in government? She's been governor for two years, not very much time. And of Alaska, somewhat out of the way. What are her qualifications? She's a mom. I don't agree that that qualifies anybody for political office.

I guess she's a well-behaved Republican. She touts her husband and her children, she's a pretty girl, she's pro-life, and she has zero respect for the environment.

I'm appalled that if this goes badly, we'll have her as a Vice for 4 years. Not to mention McCain as president for those years. I shudder and hope we can survive it.

I'm sure he's trying to get the Hilary girls, but they're not conservative. They don't believe a woman's place is in the home, they demand to make their own reproductive choices and think nobody gets to tell them what to think, and they prefer a strong woman, not just a pretty face.
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Old 09-01-2008, 01:59 PM   #9
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Did McCain choose Palin or a Lohan for VP?

Does her daughter have a deal for her own Disney Channel series yet?
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Old 09-01-2008, 02:02 PM   #10
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That could perhaps be one of the most offensive posts I've ever read, alphabassetgrrl. Sorry I asked.
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