All About McCain

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

The only thing I like about him is I think he "gets it" (meaning we pretty much agree) on national defense.

Attacking another sovereign nation, without provocation, is not national defense. Having no plan on leaving said nation, and saying we will be there for 100 years, is insanity.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by JWBear

Attacking another sovereign nation, without provocation, is not national defense.

Sorry. Gulf War I, widely accepted as...umm...acceptable, ended not with a treaty, but with a cease fire. Granted, we didn't invade Iraq because of violations of it, but the violations were not only provocation, but justification for the invasion.

I realize I am in the minority, but I think my logic is sound.

And I will say I find it somewhat amusing that out of my lengthy laundry list of what I disagree with him on the only comments are about what I agree with him on.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

And I will say I find it somewhat amusing that out of my lengthy laundry list of what I disagree with him on the only comments are about what I agree with him on.

Because the one thing you agree with him on is the one thing that he wants to use as the driving force behind his campaign which means it's going to be focused on.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Sorry. Gulf War I, widely accepted as...umm...acceptable, ended not with a treaty, but with a cease fire. Granted, we didn't invade Iraq because of violations of it, but the violations were not only provocation, but justification for the invasion.

I realize I am in the minority, but I think my logic is sound.

And I will say I find it somewhat amusing that out of my lengthy laundry list of what I disagree with him on the only comments are about what I agree with him on.

I'm sorry... I thought we attacked Iraq because of WMDs... I mean 9/11... I mean human rights abuses... I mean... Um... why are we there exactly?

Potential violations of the Gulf War cease fire? That's a new one....

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by JWBear

Potential violations of the Gulf War cease fire? That's a new one....

I didn't use the word potential. Iraq violated the cease fire pretty much daily.

And I already stated that was not our official reason for going in. I get that. However, it certainly means it wasn't illegal.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

...it certainly means it wasn't illegal.

That's a matter of opinion.