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 Oh, yeah, I liked that one. Not a myth I'd heard, but at that point I don't care. Boom! 
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		 I saw P & T's BS a while ago and thought it was a riot.  I'm guessing it's on a pay per view chanel, which is why I don't see it anymore. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 It's on Showtime. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 And DVD (at least that's how I've been watching them). 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I'm meh on the whole thing.  In turns I start to like it, then get annoyed with Penn's sanctimonious tone. And the gratuitous nudity. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 I like the sanctimonious condescension. Many of the idiots involved need to encounter it more often instead of being coddled with "well, everybody is entitled to their view and therefore all views are equally valid" pats on the back. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	But I can see it turning people off. Adam Savage (of Mythbusters) is, in private life, pretty active in the same woo debunking skeptic circles.  | 
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		 I like shows where they blow stuff up. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
	And show sharks. But not blow up sharks. I've heard that GWs don't like dolphins, because dolphins can kill GWs by ramming them in the gills. I completely agree though, the MB methodology was unpossible. But using real dolphins and seals as bait would not make for good TV. Dolphins rescue surfer  | 
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		 That's not the methodological problem I had. I don't really have a problem with their methodology being incomplete; it is a TV show doing informal study, I'm fine with that. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	It is when they say their methodology is demonstrating something that it isn't. The one that got me with the dolphin/great white was at the end they said "to show that the great white really is put off by our fake dolphin we took it out of the water and look they went crazy for the bait." That in no way shows the great whites were put off by a dolphin, at most it shows they were put off by a previously inert object in the water suddenly moving towards them just as they were about to bite food. At least in the 20 minutes I watched they did nothing to show that the result is different if that object is shaped like a dolphin instead of just floating debris or something else. It isn't a big thing but they misrepresent what the value of what they're demonstrating on a regular basis.  | 
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