Democratic National Convention '08

[Alex]

When I look at Obama I see someone who is 70% a lottery winner and 30% self made.

When I look at myself (my starting position is probably worse than his), I see the same.

Regardless of how hard you try, huge amounts of luck are involved in success.

Now, I agree that not all of Obama's proposals are things I'd support. But you said that what we have now is sufficient for anybody to succeed.

Originally Posted by You

It some cases it takes hard work and sacrifice, but it is possible for anyone with the programs we have now.

So, does this mean that anybody who fails to achieve success has simply not tried hard enough or sacrificed enough? You, apparently, would say yes. Obama, apparently, would say no and that there is more government should be doing. He was also quite clear (whether he is right or wrong) in saying that the programs that exist now are not the same as they once were and have been undermined by recent political history.