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Old 04-20-2005, 10:46 AM   #1
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As far as not sharing communion with Lutherans, I have a theory, though I cannt be sure - Catholics have a doctrine which says they the communion wafer and wine actually turn to the body and blood of Christ. Not my thing, but that's their doctrine. As far as I know, Lutheran's do not share that belief. Would not that therefore result in the sacrament not being compatable between the two religions, meaning something different to the two?
Ok..being Lutheran...yes, we do not believe it actually turns into the blood and body of Jesus, we are more of thinking it is symbolic, the meaning probably isn't much different though in the long run.

However, it goes deeper. We do not believe in all the sacraments that Catholics do, you know...no saints...that we are saved through faith, not with good works or money....yada..yada..yada...(I could go on here, but I'll stop myself for the good of others) And since we are essentially a rebel bunch of believers that opposed the Catholic beliefs to become a seperate religion that started from being Catholic in the first place (Martin Luther), I'm sure there are orthodox Catholics that would like to have nothing more to do with us traitors. IMHO......
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And since we are essentially a rebel bunch of believers that opposed the Catholic beliefs to become a seperate religion that started from being Catholic in the first place (Martin Luther), I'm sure there are orthodox Catholics that would like to have nothing more to do with us traitors. IMHO......
So you are suggesting Ratzinger carries a centuries old grudge from the reformation?
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So you are suggesting Ratzinger carries a centuries old grudge from the reformation?

We may never know...it was just a thought. I have heard something about his possible religious intolerant tendencies, though I believe it to be aimed elsewhere not at other Christian denominations.

So who knows?

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However, it goes deeper. We do not believe in all the sacraments that Catholics do, you know...no saints...that we are saved through faith, not with good works or money....yada..yada..yada...

Just to set the record straight, as a Catholic, I don't believe that good works and money are the source of my salvation.

My family, including in-laws through my husband and my brother, is made up of many denominations. My SIL (husband's sister) converted to Judaism. We also have Lutherans, born-again Christians, atheists and Catholics. Everyone gets along fine and respects the beliefs of the other family members.

I am dissapointed in the choice of Pope. But I see every Pope as a human being. He has his many flaws, just like the rest of us.
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Just to set the record straight, as a Catholic, I don't believe that good works and money are the source of my salvation.

No worries....I wasn't saying that is how it is now...but rather that was the Lutheran thought process. Sorry to speak of past and present together without proper disclaimers accordingly.


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