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[JWBear]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

It was most certainly said in jest, but no matter what context brought up by McCain it would be lambasted. As an example, in the last debate, McCain brought it up as an example of how the parties can come together in times of crisis, and in these parts he was slammed on big time.

Nope. Sorry Leo. I just scanned through the entire discussion of the last debate. Not one mention of 9/11 by anyone here.

[scaeagles]

Perhaps it was in the McCain discussion. I know it happened because I questioned it.

Edited to add:

My bad. It was predebate when McCain was talking about suspending his campaign.

It started here and went on.

In fact, JW, you made your feelings pretty well known....but I guess it was only when "they" bring up 9/11.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Perhaps it was in the McCain discussion. I know it happened because I questioned it.

Edited to add:

My bad. It was predebate when McCain was talking about suspending his campaign.

It started here and went on.

In fact, JW, you made your feelings pretty well known....but I guess it was only when "they" bring up 9/11.

As Mousepod stated above, it's all in the context.... and in the volume. I hear it over and over (and over and over) from Republicans. And when they do, it's all about fearmongering. All about distraction. Bush and Co couldn't give a rat's ass about the victims of 9/11 - only in the power the phrase holds over frightened people.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by JWBear

As Mousepod stated above, it's all in the context.... and in the volume.

Right. Context. When you wrote what I linked to, the context of your post was in reference to what McCain said (at least it was only a few posts after when MBC pointed it out). YOu didn't seem to care about the context in which McCain used it....which was complimentary to both parties.

To be clear, I have no problem with what Obama said.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Right. Context. When you wrote what I linked to, the context of your post was in reference to what McCain said (at least it was only a few posts after when MBC pointed it out). YOu didn't seem to care about the context in which McCain used it....which was complimentary to both parties.

To be clear, I have no problem with what Obama said.

I wasn't talking about the context of my quote. But.... Whatever.

Watch the Olbermann video I linked to. He states my stand on the use of 9/11 by Republicans perfectly.

[mousepod]

You beat me to it, Leo.

I guess in the context that McCain put it, it is less offensive to me than to some of the others in that thread. In hindsight though, since McCain really didn't suspend anything and instead was playing a political game, I question everything he said in his little speech.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by mousepod

I guess in the context that McCain put it, it is less offensive to me than to some of the others in that thread. In hindsight though, since McCain really didn't suspend anything and instead was playing a political game, I question everything he said in his little speech.

I agree. McCain was certainly playing a political game.

That reminds me of something that amused me in the debate. McCain said we'd tackle energy, health care, and entitlements at the same time. Obama said we had to prioritize. The reason I found this amusing was that Obama, when McCain suspended his campaign, said Presidents have to be able to multitask.

[flippyshark]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I agree. McCain was certainly playing a political game.

That reminds me of something that amused me in the debate. McCain said we'd tackle energy, health care, and entitlements at the same time. Obama said we had to prioritize. The reason I found this amusing was that Obama, when McCain suspended his campaign, said Presidents have to be able to multitask.

He didn't say we HAVE to prioritize. He was answering the question as posed, "how would you prioritize these?" (McCain got the more crowd pleasing answer out first - we can do it all - and Obama would have looked lame if he said the same thing.)

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I agree. McCain was certainly playing a political game.

That reminds me of something that amused me in the debate. McCain said we'd tackle energy, health care, and entitlements at the same time. Obama said we had to prioritize. The reason I found this amusing was that Obama, when McCain suspended his campaign, said Presidents have to be able to multitask.

Huge difference. If you can't run a campaign and give feedback on a bill that you aren't authoring then maybe you shouldn't be President. How can you multi-task on 3 different areas that take funding when trying to fix the current economic crisis?

I didn't take Obama to mean that he was going to ignore the other 2 areas, just that they were going to be prioritized and focused on fixing one at a time.

[€uroMeinke]

I heard some of it on the radio, I found McCain's use of the phrae "my friend" annoying - made me have flashbacks to the movie Barfly. Bukowski would have made an interesting president.