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Old 11-05-2008, 03:10 PM   #1
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Thanks for the info, I'll be back from Redlands in plenty of time to attend.
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:22 PM   #2
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Um, except that the young grow old.


Young people do not automatically retain their optimism, peacefulness, love and good-heartedness. It evaporates in all too many people.


If that weren't the sad truth, the 80's would have been utopia when all the wonderful youth of the 60's grew to be the core of society. It didn't happen that way then, and it won't now.

I don't know about that - the idealism of the 60s did make its way into social changes. My workplace is certainly a more diverse place now than it was then. I don't think people become more bigoted as the age.

I think what's happening now is gay rights is now entering the consciousness as women and minority rights did in the 60s and the inherited bigotry of their parents are at odds with their own experience of the world.
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:38 PM   #3
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I don't know about that - the idealism of the 60s did make its way into social changes. My workplace is certainly a more diverse place now than it was then. I don't think people become more bigoted as the age.

I think what's happening now is gay rights is now entering the consciousness as women and minority rights did in the 60s and the inherited bigotry of their parents are at odds with their own experience of the world.
Totally.

To me, this is the next big movement for equal rights.

Go back 50 years, there was a big movement for equal rights for minorities (segregated restrooms, ban on interracial marriage). Fifty years before that, women couldn't vote. Another Fifty years back....slavery.
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I'm pissed at my nephew! He opposed 8, but "never got around to" voting yesterday!
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Nobody's answering the phone at LAGLC, If I get through, and can find out where there are protests, I'll post that info here and on twitter.
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Obama mentioned gays in his acceptance speech. That made me extremely happy and proud that I voted for him.
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Oh, forgot, here's a link to the full text of Douglas's speech. It's a powerful read.
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