A Prop 8 challenge for swankers

[katiesue]

I know a lot of these groups have issues with the word “marriage”. Now correct me if I’m wrong but to my understanding in some churches you’re not considered “married” unless you have a ceremony in that particular church with a priest. I know this is true for Catholics. Now if 8 were to get voted down you still couldn’t be gay and “married” in the Catholic Church’s eyes because they wouldn’t perform the ceremony, which is their right. I know many people who are Catholic who were not married in the church but elsewhere and unless you later go in and have your “marriage” blessed, to the church it’s a “civil union” anyway. So I don’t get the threat or problem. If your particular religion doesn’t want to perform a gay marriage based upon it’s beliefs then no problem. Why does it matter anymore than if someone goes to Vegas or City Hall which aren’t usually religious ceremonies anyway but civil ones?

My Aunts suggestion was that we go the British way. You have a legal ceremony and then should you want to, a religious ceremony at whatever institution you subscribe to. Takes the religion aspect out of it.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by katiesue

Now if 8 were to get voted down you still couldn’t be gay and “married” in the Catholic Church’s eyes because they wouldn’t perform the ceremony, which is their right. I know many people who are Catholic who were not married in the church but elsewhere and unless you later go in and have your “marriage” blessed, to the church it’s a “civil union” anyway. So I don’t get the threat or problem.

This is a very logical response to an illogical position. Favoring prop 8 comes from fear and hatred of gay people. If it were otherwise, then truthful and logical arguments could be offered in its defense. The false and logically twisted arguments that its supporters make are obvious covers for their true reasons, which are not considered politically acceptable to be spoken of openly.

[Chernabog]

Originally Posted by katiesue

I know many people who are Catholic who were not married in the church but elsewhere and unless you later go in and have your “marriage” blessed, to the church it’s a “civil union” anyway. So I don’t get the threat or problem.

The threat and problem is that the church thinks that gay people are sinful and that gay relationships are an abomination. Therefore, they will try to block all attempts to validate gay relationships. As marriage is the ultimate form of relationship validity (both socially and legally), the religious idiots want to block it for the same reason that we want it. Having gay marriage legal means that it is truly okay to be gay, and that scares the living crap out of their homophobic arses.