Tis the season...deja vu anyone?

[Alex]

I do there there is value in the tradition argument, and even when of religious origin, a traditional thing carries some secular value.

I think that argument, however, was shredded when their were lawsuits charging that the traditional thing was not sufficiently religious and therefore more overt religious symbolism should be allowed (attempts to require calling it a Christmas tree rather than holiday tree and then to add a nativity scene).