YES We did!

[innerSpaceman]

Originally Posted by Jazzman

Otherwise, without some proof, I'm continuing to file it under "BS Theories" alongside The Second Gunman, The Government Did 9/11 and Global Warming.

And I'm going to file your responses on this topic under "Clueless."

I'll leave it to a person of color to respond to your unacknowledged White Privilege that is so engrained you deny its very existence. How completely arrogant, oh member of the ruling class by virture of your pigment at birth.

When's the last time you were stopped and frisked by the police? Pfft, I'll stop there. This is absurd.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

That was a joke, right?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kurtisbillard/2372549704/

[Cadaverous Pallor]

As a smarter person than I quipped, "Cheney in a wheelchair would be a metaphor....if this were FICTION."

After we had enough crappy commentary we switched to CSPAN. Ahh.

[Ghoulish Delight]

I found that part of Lowery's speech trite and inane, but not offensive.

[cirquelover]

I stuck with NBC yesterday. I really like Brian Williams, his commentary was pretty funny at times too.

[Alex]

Generalities are sometimes perfectly fine.

When talking about race in the United States I don't think there is anything particularly wrong with the fact that improvement means things get easier for minorities and white people behave better than they have in the past.

Does this mean that there are no bad people in the minorities and all white people are bad? No, of course not. But at least in this country when talking about an approach to racial unity and peace (which is a "general" and not so much a specific concept) it is a simple fact that "white" as a group moves in a fundamentally different direction than everybody else.

[innerSpaceman]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Open your eyes, ISM, and you get a "fracking clue" that the only generalities that are acceptable are negative toward white people. They aren't the only ones used by any means, but they are the ones that are even remotely accepted.

For the record, I have zero problem with the phrases "that's so gay" or "jew him down." I'm a gay and a jew ... so go figure.

But you're comparing apples to oranges. Those generalities are not made as an insult to people who've done you harm, but merely as an insult.

So ... I don't think it's ok for me to use generalities to insult a black man, but I find it perfectly understandable when a black man uses generalities to insult whites, of which group I happen to be a member.

By the same token, I don't find it understandable if a black man insults gays or jews, of which groups I am also members ... by virtue of the fact that gays and jews haven't done systematic harm to blacks.

Get the difference? Now go complain to your ancestors, because they saddled you with this lasting animus. Use a Ouija board if necessary. But stop whining about your poor aggreived insult when it's an absolute act of surreal amazement that a black man just now became president of the United States in 2009.

[sleepyjeff]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16985924@N00/40873993/

[scaeagles]

However, I know several African Americans who in dislike Jews because they believe that they have been held down financially by Jews.

Is it OK for Jews to talk poorly Germans? Is it OK for Jews to speak in derogatory fashion about Palestinians or other Middle Eastern people? Or vice versa on that last one? Because you don't have problems with "that's so gay", does that make the phrase OK when I beleive it was SzczerbiakManiac (sp?) that had a thread about working to eliminate that phrase?

I think that such conversation only hardens lines and bad feelings between the peoples that hold such thoughts. As Jazzman put it, in an environment embracing unity, why say that?

By the way, just so CP is clear, he can say whatever the hell he wants. I just don't think he should get a pass anymore than someone using racial generalities about any other race should.

[JWBear]

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