The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

scaeagles · 02-13-2009, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex

So don't be silent.

It should be made available but regardless it doesn't really matter if it is or not since the bill is now beyond the point when it can be changed.

That's true, but it misrepresents Caterpillar's CEO as saying that the stimulus package won't help. In fact he said that the government needs to spend even more. All he said was that the stimulus package wouldn't help immediately and that there would likely be more layoffs before things improved.

Self imposed silence. Wanted to back off and see what would happen with Obama and the dem congressional control without jumping on everything that I disagreed with.

It does matter. Too much money to violate the calls for transparency.

I think Obama was trying to mislead regarding the Caterpillar stuff. He wanted it to seem as if this bill would make an immediate impact if passed in putting pressure to act immediately.

Moonliner · 02-13-2009, 10:06 AM

I'm not sure what's worse, the Republicans who always operate in the shadows or the Dem's who promise to work in the light then shoot out the bulb at the last second.

I would like a chance for a public review, the markets are closed over the weekend so I don't think the country would suffer irreparable harm waiting the 48 hours.

I'm keeping an eye on this site: ReadTheStimulus.org

Alex · 02-13-2009, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

I think Obama was trying to mislead regarding the Caterpillar stuff. He wanted it to seem as if this bill would make an immediate impact if passed in putting pressure to act immediately.

Unless, as has been suggested (though I don't know the provenance of it) the CEO of Caterpillar had told him that passage of the stimulus would result in them holding off on some of the announced layoffs.

In which case Obama was lead out on the branch and then had it cut off behind him.

If that was not said to him then yes it was misleading.

Stan4dSteph · 02-13-2009, 11:18 AM

I think Obama got told something and then the CEO decided to go back on what he said.

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