"They blew up their poster boy"

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

Not denying anything, nor agreeing with all- you guys are still doing it. You are tap dancing so fast I can't keep up. You won't actively condemn those who did so, despite my facts that, as I said, back the assertion. You are trying to distract, reframe and refuse to adress the issue.

I wasn't aware that a condemnation of these individuals would be necessary. I don't think that Tillman is any more or any less special than any of the soldiers over there who gives their life for our country. Of course the death of a soldier is tragic. The lie that liberals don't care about the soldiers just isn't true though, no matter how many times those on your side try to spin it that way and it is quite offensive to some of us.

And I don't see any tap dancing here. I see a post that can be easily construed as a sweeping generalization, intended or not. I see posters taking exception with that. If a sweeping generalization isn't what you were implying, perhaps you could choose your words more carefully. That is all we have to go by.

[Not Afraid]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

Amazing- isn't it? So busy with your boomerang antics, you can't even discuss what I did bring to the table.

This general topic is rendered impossible to discuss due to the inherant problems in your stated argument. If the argument was clean and clear, the duscussion could continue, but, as it is, it is much to muddy to continue with.

[SacTown Chronic]

I remember the sweet afterglow of 9/11 when the country was united. How sad is it that we only listen and feel compassion after our world has been rocked? Fvcking Bush....why have we let this brain-dead twit tear us apart again?

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic

Bush....why have we let this brain-dead twit tear us apart again?

Plenty of brain dead twits on the left doing their best to tear us apart as well, dear Sac.

[SacTown Chronic]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Plenty of brain dead twits on the left doing their best to tear us apart as well, dear Sac.

Probably. Nobody is 100% right or blameless.


But Bush holds the hammer and he has much hate in his heart.

[Prudence]

And what exactly would you like us to discuss? I believe it's already been mentioned that yes, there are nutty people out there who lack compassion and use the pain of others for their own gain.

[BarTopDancer]

What exactly did you bring to the table besides perceived generalizations?

[Ghoulish Delight]

Pat Tillman was no more the bafoon who deserved what he got that a few loud mouth meaningless twits with no baring on anything important said he was than the infallible hero that the liars in charge who have direct control over thousands of people's lives led people to believe.

He was a soldier who died. One of several thousand. No better or worse.

And I RARELY go this route, but damnit, The Conservatives started it. They started it by deeming anyone who DARED to say anything against the war as unpatriotic. They started it by cannonizing all soldiers for simply doing what they are trained and paid to do. They started it by demeaning every other soldier's sacrifice as they shouted the glories of Pat Tillman. And worst of all, they started it by telling a bald face lie to our faces and, most importantly to the faces of Tillman's family.

The official voice of this country is extremist, deluded, hypocritical, and arrogant. So yeah, you're gonna get backlash of equal callibur. So what? Those nut jobs don't matter. I can ignore them. I'm not given the choice to ignore the regime, er, administration or ignore the decissions of our military. Nor is the rest of the world.

So fine, you want acknowledgement that what's in those message boards and blogs is a bunch of nutjobs? Yep, they sure are. But who cares?

[€uroMeinke]

If soldiers didn't die - we'd have nothing to post about here.

[scaeagles]

Bill Maher? Does anyone still watch him? Want me to quote him saying that our military is a bunch of cowards and the really brave ones are the terrorists? He ranks right up there with Bill O'Reilly for me - very full of himself.