Lost!

[Ghoulish Delight]

Could be his wife from his original life.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Could be his wife from his original life.

It's LOST!, it can't be that simple

[bewitched]

Well, it's not tomorrow, but since "spoilering" (if not speculation) is rampant...

Who the f is "Wallace"? (At 108*, the point Hurley was told to turn the wheel to.) Speaking of which...Lighthouse wheel/Donkey wheel; how are they related?

Cave= dark= MIB
Lighthouse= light= Jacob
(I just KNOW it's not going to be that cut and dry)

Christian and MIB are not one and the same. Claire said she was hanging with her father and a "friend"-- friend=NotLocke. So, who (or what) the hell is Christian?

I read on another board that "Littleton" was on the lighthouse list...I didn't see it myself though.

"Linus" was crossed out. (Did anyone catch the #?)

Question for anyone who remembers from a few seasons ago:

Ben had a list of survivors; was it a list just of the kids, or of "candidates"? I wonder where he got said list because he thought he had been interacting with Jacob the whole time when I think it's somewhat clear that he had actually been being guided by MIB all along which brings up another thought...

Jacob said it was too late for the people still at the temple because someone (something?) bad was coming (to the temple); which leads one to wonder if Miles will be around (or eligible) for much longer (possibly why his name is crossed out). Everyone assumes the temple is Jacob's domain but is it really MIB's instead (after all, Smokey dwelt there at some point)?


And maybe I'm just contrary but I have to say that a big part of the fun of Lost (even in this last season) is continuing speculation on what it all means, including whether or not what we've been told (or led to believe) is the truth is, in fact, such. But that's me.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by bewitched

Christian and MIB are not one and the same. Claire said she was hanging with her father and a "friend"-- friend=NotLocke. So, who (or what) the hell is Christian?

But she was clearly aware that, while he looks like Locke, he's not Locke. So I don't think it rules out, and I think it remains by far most likely, that Christian is MIB/Smokey and she's just on board with the shape-shifting. Especially since MIB-as-Locke didn't exist for most of the 3 years she said she spent with "her friend".

Linus was 117. Forgot to add him to the alive-and-crossed out list.

And maybe I'm just contrary but I have to say that a big part of the fun of Lost (even in this last season) is continuing speculation on what it all means, including whether or not what we've been told (or led to believe) is the truth is, in fact, such. But that's me.

Surely, but at some point the "throw absolutely everything at the wall and see what sticks" becomes overkill. Sure, the CIA could be giving mind controlling drugs to the Loch Ness Monster who is actually a diplomatic emissary from the race of aliens that crashed in Roswell and that actually created the island to amuse their child-king, and that absolutely nothing we've been shown for the last 6 seasons ever actually happened in the character's universe. But that would seem to have made creating 6 seasons of show that showed something completely different a pointless exercise for the producers.

There are already plenty of mysteries on the table. For instance, what exactly are "candidates" and what does "replacing Jacob" mean? What are Jacob and MIB, why are they so interested in candidates. Why are these people we've been following candidates, and how do the concepts of free will vs. destiny come into play? That's a TON to think and speculate about without further assuming that the little we do no is simply wrong. Actually, I find it far more interesting to assume everything is true, just true in a way that we don't yet understand. So when they show the name "Shephard", associated with one of the #'s that Jack has been dealing with, and then immediately show Jack, speculating that somehow the name might refer to some other people that aren't even named Shepherd...just seems an unnecessary distraction.

Of course, then there's the whole MIB-out-of-nowhere crap. I still call b.s. on that, so maybe the Locke Ness monster isn't far behind, what do I know.

[bewitched]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

But she was clearly aware that, while he looks like Locke, he's not Locke. So I don't think it rules out, and I think it remains by far most likely, that Christian is MIB/Smokey and she's just on board with the shape-shifting. Especially since MIB-as-Locke didn't exist for most of the 3 years she said she spent with "her friend".

But she made a distinction between her father and her "friend" and that she lived with both of them. She then specifically referred to NotLocke as her "friend" (i.e. not her father).

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by bewitched

Well, it's not tomorrow, but since "spoilering" (if not speculation) is rampant...

Since Gemini Cricket doesn't watch the show, there's no one west of Pacific Time that's watching, once it's aired in Pacific Time spoilers are fair game.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by bewitched

Ben had a list of survivors; was it a list just of the kids, or of "candidates"? I wonder where he got said list because he thought he had been interacting with Jacob the whole time when I think it's somewhat clear that he had actually been being guided by MIB all along which brings up another thought...

Actually, Ben admitted to never having seen Jacob. So perhaps he never interacted with either Jacob or MIB and just lied the whole time. Though he certainly could have spoken with one of them, thinking it was Jacob, without actually having seen them.

[Ghoulish Delight]

She said "her father"? I missed that. When Jin first asked her if she'd been alone, she said, "No, I was with my friend". Then when somked lox arrived she said, "This is my friend". I never heard "father".

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

She said "her father"? I missed that. When Jin first asked her if she'd been alone, she said, "No, I was with my friend". Then when somked lox arrived she said, "This is my friend". I never heard "father".

Two different sentences - one was that her "father" told her who took Aaron. The other was she was "with my friend".

It is possible that Christian was MIB when they all left. For all we know, if Smoky wasn't stuck in Locke form now (done for a purpose obviously) he'd still shapeshift into Christian. But Smoky is stuck in Lockeform from now until they tell us otherwise - which I don't think will happen since IIlana (that's her name!) said he can't change anymore.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Yeah, other resources confirmed, I just missed the line. That does open the possibility that Christian isn't MIB, if she makes a distinction between NotLocke and her "father". Or it may just mean she's confused, or purposely misled.