Iranian election

[Tref]

Originally Posted by JWBear

Already posted 7 posts up.

Can I just use the one Betty posted?

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by Tref

Can I just use the one Betty posted?

No

[Tref]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

No

Then I'll use the one JWbear included.

[scaeagles]

I believe that you can only have peace with those that want to have peace with you. I would be much more supportive of your arguments were it not for the refusal of nearly everything the Palestinians have asked for in terms of a state. This is why I don't think there is desire for peace. There is desire for eradication of Jews.

[innerSpaceman]

Oh, um, Iranian elections.

Well, word I've heard this morning there was a crackdown over the weekend, and hundreds may have been killed. Mousavi (sp?) is defining the Supreme Leaders* orders, and urging his followers to keep demonstrating.

And for the first time, the Iranian government is admitting there were "irregularities" in the election, with 3 million votes in dispute. Amenadinijad(also sp?) is purported to have won by 11 million.




* Hahahah, CP and I were cracking up on Friday about this guy's title actually being Supreme Leader. Hahahahaha! Too many comic books in Iran??

[innerSpaceman]

There is no desire for peace on the part of the Israeli government and its supporters, either. They want nothing less than to take over all Palestinian lands and eradicate or nullify completely those people.

And while I don't think a country with military superiority should be constrained from using overwhelming force, the purposeful use of that force on civilians, on United Nations targets, and including in that force banned phosphorus weapons makes the Israely military no better than those who bomb marketplaces or busses full of purposeful civilian targets.

A pox indeed on both their houses, but in such cases where neither side plays fair ... my sympathes go to those who are outgunned, being systematically exterminated, under permanent seige in Gaza, and Walled out of practical existence in the West Bank.

I wish Yaweh would come back for a curtain call of 40 days and 40 nights to wipe out the entire region with 40 different, gruesome plagues and make the area and bloody Jerusalem uninhabitable forever.

[Alex]

Besides, we need the Arabs and Jews to go to war. It is the requisite first step of the end times and Jesus's return.

[scaeagles]

I thought Arabs and Jews making peace was a sign of the end times. Shows you what I know.

[SzczerbiakManiac]

I want to have sympathy for those fighting for democratic reform in Iran, I really do. But when I try, I am reminded how they feel about me--how they would summarily jail and/or execute me just for being who I am. So I'm finding it very difficult to muster up any feelings of good will. I'm not proud of this, I'm just saying how I feel.

[wendybeth]

Many of the banners and signs seen in the demonstrations are in English. I don't think it's just a cynical ploy to enlist the aid of the west, but rather an indication to the world that the current regime is not representative of the people in general. Iran is a very complicated country- the people are mostly Persian, not Arabic, and although they share a religion it is (or was, prior to the revolution) different enough to be branded 'Persian Islam'. They have always been relatively independent and a wild card in the region. I think the majority of Iranians do not despise the US, at least not to the degree that other nations in the Middle East do, and I have sympathy for them. They were taken over by the fanatics, and are trying to find their way out.