Iranian election

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Iran has threatened to obliterate them. Hamas is sworn to kill Jews.

I am certainly no expert in the creation of present day Israel except that there was an international agreement to do so in...1947? Not exactly sure. To the extent that the creation of Israel screwed over Palestinians I cannot speak but suppose that I wouldn't have been happy should I have lived there. This is indeed history and Israel isn't going away.

Interesting that you claim such certainty in knowing the motivations and goals of the people involved while also claiming know knowledge of the history involved. 60 years is hardly a blip in the thousands of years of conflict in the region, so what happened then most certainly remains relevant. and his hardly just history. And the fact that you mention Iran in this discussion really shows a lack of understanding as Iranians are NOT Palestinians, they aren't even Arabs. They may nominally play the role of ally against a common enemy, but Ahmedinijad's lunacy has little to no connection to whether a 2 state solution is a viable option or not.

As iSm points out, and I've argued before, if you're going to paint the Palestinians with the wide brush of wanting to wipe the Jews out, than the Israeli Jews are certainly in need of that same coat of paint. Because they are in control and HAVE their own state, they can play the part of the maligned victim, only defending itself from the viscious attacks of terrorists (which of course they have a right to do as long as they are actually targeting militants and not just indiscriminantly bombing using the weak "but they put children in the line of fire!" excuse). And because they know their bluff won't be called they can smuggly offer peace, knowing full well it won't be accepted because the Palestinians have no faith that Israel will keep their side of the bargain.