Obama - Page 7

scaeagles · 07-24-2009, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

I just hope your long-awaited Obama rant has better goods on him than this.

Oh, I don't see this as a big deal overall, except that I think it reveals a bit about him and his outlook on life....he admittedly did not know all the facts yet said the cop acted stupidly as his gut reaction.

I won't post the Obama rant until I have the time to thoughtfully put it together. I realize the suspense is building and I am am not intentionally making you wait.

Chernabog · 07-24-2009, 01:10 PM

I'm siding with the cop on this one.

When the President of the United States calls you stupid, based on facts that he does not have, is... well, stupid. The fact that the President of the United States does not understand why calling someone stupid (to the media, no less) is offensive, is... well, stupid. Especially when he knew the question was coming and had time to prepare his canned response. This was not an off-the-cuff exchange.

I was listening to a radio show this morning where people were outright nasty and vicious towards one of the hosts for even SUGGESTING that there was another side of the story than the Harvard Prof.'s.

The cops were investigating a break-in, to a place that had been broken into before. The Prof goes completely ballistic on them, and HE'S the one that first suggested this was race-based. I think it is patently unfair that this cop is now demonized as a racist and a bigot when this does not seem race-based as the actual facts come out.

Gemini Cricket · 07-24-2009, 01:18 PM

Obama just pulled one of his "I talked to them personally and now everything's okay" stunts. He personally called Crowley.
Source

He did this to try and placate the GLBT community too. Like those gay rights advocates who keep coming out of the White House saying, 'Oh, I talked to the president and everything will be fine'. All this without anyone really knowing what he said or if he will actually do anything about the problem...

Chernabog · 07-24-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

Obama just pulled one of his "I talked to them personally and now everything's okay" stunts. He personally called Crowley.

Of course. Obama can buy over lots of people with a chat and a cocktail.

Q: "Why'd you call me stupid?"

A: "Change...hope..hope...change change. Martini?"

Q: "Um, sure. Thanks!"

Gemini Cricket · 07-24-2009, 01:58 PM

It's like that episode of South Park where Kenny was dying in the hospital and the staff thought maybe he'd feel better in his final days by getting a personal visit from Madonna.

Strangler Lewis · 07-24-2009, 02:09 PM

I'm surprised to see you gay fellers gettin' all law and order and cop deferentialish. I submit that if the complaint from the neighbors had not been that a black man had been breaking into a house that he turned out to be renting, but that a gay man was seen molesting a young boy who turned out to be an adult midget--and everything else played out the same way, you'd be posting different things.

Gemini Cricket · 07-24-2009, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis

I'm surprised to see you gay fellers gettin' all law and order and cop deferentialish. I submit that if the complaint from the neighbors had not been that a black man had been breaking into a house that he turned out to be renting, but that a gay man was seen molesting a young boy who turned out to be an adult midget--and everything else played out the same way, you'd be posting different things.

Not me. I'm from a cop family. I see things through their eyes a lot of times. It's not a fun job and is often dangerous. Not that I agree with cops all the time, but I do get to hear how hard a job it is dealing with people sometimes.

innerSpaceman · 07-24-2009, 02:14 PM

Yeah, I hear that from a lot of CMs, too. Guess it's good they're not armed.

Gemini Cricket · 07-24-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Yeah, I hear that from a lot of CMs, too. Guess it's good they're not armed.

At the very least, the Frontierland CMs should be armed. It would match the theme.

Strangler Lewis · 07-24-2009, 02:18 PM

That's a good blurb to remember if you find yourself in the jury box on a criminal case.

But, seriously, no one should dispute what you said. In this case, however, the cop had the choice between calming the situation down by making a perhaps technically unnecessary apology and ensuring that he got the last word in a way that only the cop can. He chose the latter.

So what's your take on White night?

07-24-2009, 01:10 PM	#2
Chernabog Biophage Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Moon Posts: 2,679	I'm siding with the cop on this one. When the President of the United States calls you stupid, based on facts that he does not have, is... well, stupid. The fact that the President of the United States does not understand why calling someone stupid (to the media, no less) is offensive, is... well, stupid. Especially when he knew the question was coming and had time to prepare his canned response. This was not an off-the-cuff exchange. I was listening to a radio show this morning where people were outright nasty and vicious towards one of the hosts for even SUGGESTING that there was another side of the story than the Harvard Prof.'s. The cops were investigating a break-in, to a place that had been broken into before. The Prof goes completely ballistic on them, and HE'S the one that first suggested this was race-based. I think it is patently unfair that this cop is now demonized as a racist and a bigot when this does not seem race-based as the actual facts come out. __________________ And they say back then our universe Was a coal black egg Until the god inside Burst out and from its shattered shell He made what became the world we know ~ Bjork (Cosmogony)
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07-24-2009, 01:18 PM	#3
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Obama just pulled one of his "I talked to them personally and now everything's okay" stunts. He personally called Crowley. Source He did this to try and placate the GLBT community too. Like those gay rights advocates who keep coming out of the White House saying, 'Oh, I talked to the president and everything will be fine'. All this without anyone really knowing what he said or if he will actually do anything about the problem...
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07-24-2009, 01:58 PM	#5
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	It's like that episode of South Park where Kenny was dying in the hospital and the staff thought maybe he'd feel better in his final days by getting a personal visit from Madonna.
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07-24-2009, 02:09 PM	#6
Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	I'm surprised to see you gay fellers gettin' all law and order and cop deferentialish. I submit that if the complaint from the neighbors had not been that a black man had been breaking into a house that he turned out to be renting, but that a gay man was seen molesting a young boy who turned out to be an adult midget--and everything else played out the same way, you'd be posting different things. __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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07-24-2009, 02:14 PM	#8
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Yeah, I hear that from a lot of CMs, too. Guess it's good they're not armed.
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07-24-2009, 02:18 PM	#10
Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	That's a good blurb to remember if you find yourself in the jury box on a criminal case. But, seriously, no one should dispute what you said. In this case, however, the cop had the choice between calming the situation down by making a perhaps technically unnecessary apology and ensuring that he got the last word in a way that only the cop can. He chose the latter. So what's your take on White night? __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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