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Alex · 07-09-2009, 08:46 PM

I've never seen Blazing Saddles. I've never really considered Mel Brooks to be scraping the outer borders of moderately amusing let alone a comedic genius.

Just watched about 40 minutes of Blazing Saddles on AMC. I know it was edited but I just really don't get whatever it is that makes so many people love it or Mel Brooks in general. He's just so broad and obvious and schticky.

And yet Gene Wilder is a genius. A genius who made so many really bad movies.

Not Afraid · 07-09-2009, 08:47 PM

I <3 Alex.

innerSpaceman · 07-10-2009, 06:38 AM

Perhaps that's why Young Frankenstein really stands out among the Mel Brooks ouvre, since it was co-written with Gene Wilder, the genius who made 3 good movies and a lot of bad ones.

Strangler Lewis · 07-10-2009, 07:24 AM

Unlike Larry Gelbart, Neil Simon and Woody Allen, Mel Brooks never really stopped writing for Sid Caesar. That said, while I don't adore "Blazing Saddles" as some do, Brooks's shtick is something I've decided I want to laugh at, so I generally do.

Ghoulish Delight · 07-10-2009, 07:28 AM

It's not required, but it probably helps to be Jewish to appreciate Brooks.

I don't know if I personally consider him a comedy genius or not. Taken on the whole, not so much, he's made many a stinker and the bulk of the humor ends up in the juvenile/recycled borscht belt buckets. But The Producers alone certainly qualifies him to be considered for genius status, then you add in the parts of Spaceballs and Blazing Saddles and History of the World that are more than fart, dick, and sex jokes and yeah I begin to concede. Of course, all I have to do is think of Robin Hood, Men in Tights to fall back on the "not a genius" side of the debate.

Strangler Lewis · 07-10-2009, 07:30 AM

Come on. "Men in Tights" was worth it for "I have a mole?"

innerSpaceman · 07-10-2009, 07:55 AM

Certainly not in the genius category, and uneven to be sure, but I find his homage films High Anxiety and Silent Movie above his unfortunate average.

Oh and Ghoulish Johnson is right .... it helps if you're Jewish.

Strangler Lewis · 07-10-2009, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Oh and Ghoulish Johnson is right .... it helps if you're Jewish.

That's been the case throughout history.

innerSpaceman · 07-10-2009, 10:46 AM

Not so much during The Inquisition .... or perhaps the Holocaust, but most other times it's been really cool and somewhat chic.

Cadaverous Pallor · 07-10-2009, 11:12 AM

Interesting to me that a discussion about Three Amigos, a movie directed by John Landis and starring Steve Martin, Chevy Chase and Martin Short, (looked this up - written by Martin, Lorne Michaels and Randy Newman) suddenly shifts to a discussion about Mel Brooks. I don't think the humor is the same at all. Talk about a goyisha film.

Not everything that NA doesn't like (or rather, hasn't seen) falls into the same box. I think this is one that she might actually like, in part since the jokes haven't been repeated a billion times like Brooks or Python.

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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I've never seen Blazing Saddles. I've never really considered Mel Brooks to be scraping the outer borders of moderately amusing let alone a comedic genius. Just watched about 40 minutes of Blazing Saddles on AMC. I know it was edited but I just really don't get whatever it is that makes so many people love it or Mel Brooks in general. He's just so broad and obvious and schticky. And yet Gene Wilder is a genius. A genius who made so many really bad movies.
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Perhaps that's why Young Frankenstein really stands out among the Mel Brooks ouvre, since it was co-written with Gene Wilder, the genius who made 3 good movies and a lot of bad ones.
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Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	Unlike Larry Gelbart, Neil Simon and Woody Allen, Mel Brooks never really stopped writing for Sid Caesar. That said, while I don't adore "Blazing Saddles" as some do, Brooks's shtick is something I've decided I want to laugh at, so I generally do. __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	It's not required, but it probably helps to be Jewish to appreciate Brooks. I don't know if I personally consider him a comedy genius or not. Taken on the whole, not so much, he's made many a stinker and the bulk of the humor ends up in the juvenile/recycled borscht belt buckets. But The Producers alone certainly qualifies him to be considered for genius status, then you add in the parts of Spaceballs and Blazing Saddles and History of the World that are more than fart, dick, and sex jokes and yeah I begin to concede. Of course, all I have to do is think of Robin Hood, Men in Tights to fall back on the "not a genius" side of the debate. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	Come on. "Men in Tights" was worth it for "I have a mole?" __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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07-10-2009, 07:55 AM	#4527
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Certainly not in the genius category, and uneven to be sure, but I find his homage films High Anxiety and Silent Movie above his unfortunate average. Oh and Ghoulish Johnson is right .... it helps if you're Jewish.
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Not so much during The Inquisition .... or perhaps the Holocaust, but most other times it's been really cool and somewhat chic.
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Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	Interesting to me that a discussion about Three Amigos, a movie directed by John Landis and starring Steve Martin, Chevy Chase and Martin Short, (looked this up - written by Martin, Lorne Michaels and Randy Newman) suddenly shifts to a discussion about Mel Brooks. I don't think the humor is the same at all. Talk about a goyisha film. Not everything that NA doesn't like (or rather, hasn't seen) falls into the same box. I think this is one that she might actually like, in part since the jokes haven't been repeated a billion times like Brooks or Python.
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