High School Cheerleaders in Trouble for Bible Verse Banners

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by alphabassettgrrl

It works to ostracize those who aren't "in." If I don't believe in the god of the banner, what do I get to do while they're standing there with it and everybody else is cheering it? I get to sit essentially by myself and it is clear that I am on the outside.

What happened to cheering for the team? Who would know who is cheering for Jesus, who is cheering for the team and who is cheering in hopes that someone loses their top?

I'd be more inclined to have some sort of "outrage" if someone directly involved (cheerleader, player or student) had an issue. Like HR told us in a training "you can't be offended on someone's behalf. If it bothers you then you are offended. But you can't report it because the person directly involved might or might not be". I am so sick of faux outrage on behalf of people who don't know they should be offended.

Originally Posted by alphabassettgrrl

If I go to a football game, I don't want it to feel like a religious event. I want sports, not a revival.

Then you should stay away from any sporting even that plays God Bless America (aka Ducks games when the Stars are in town), any sporting event where the player thanks god (football games) and audience members have bible verses painted on their chests. Oh and awards ceremonies where the recipient thanks god.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

What happened to cheering for the team? Who would know who is cheering for Jesus, who is cheering for the team and who is cheering in hopes that someone loses their top?

Yet no one has addressed this.

Who would know what you're cheering for? Unless they are chanting Our Father's, then there's an issue.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

For the record - I'm not infuriated or horrified by the cheerleader banner, but I do think that it's inappropriate at a public school function, period.

Originally Posted by Jazzman

The girls did it on their own, and last I checked, that is their Constitutional right.

Students on school grounds at a school-sponsored event do not have the same free speech rights as a student outside of school.

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

What happened to cheering for the team? Who would know who is cheering for Jesus, who is cheering for the team and who is cheering in hopes that someone loses their top?

This is all the more reason to keep Jesus out of the equation. Would be nice if people actually rooted for a team to win the game, instead of rooting for Jesus to help the team to win the game.

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

Then you should stay away from any sporting even that plays God Bless America...

I'm not a fan of that either. I am not placated by the "any God" concept, since there are plenty of people who do not believe in God. Better yet, I'm getting to the point where it seems obvious to me that asking the one all-powerful being to favor their country over others is a rather ugly, divisive, spiteful concept...unless one believes that God can bless everyone simultaneously...and then it's just pointless.

[Jazzman]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

Students on school grounds at a school-sponsored event do not have the same free speech rights as a student outside of school.

No, I'm pretty sure that the Constitution applies everywhere. Maybe it's different down in Cali (don't know why it would be) but school policies do not trump the Bill of Rights.

[Strangler Lewis]

Originally Posted by Jazzman

No, I'm pretty sure that the Constitution applies everywhere. Maybe it's different down in Cali (don't know why it would be) but school policies do not trump the Bill of Rights.

More or less.

[innerSpaceman]

Originally Posted by Jazzman

No, I'm pretty sure that the Constitution applies everywhere. Maybe it's different down in Cali (don't know why it would be) but school policies do not trump the Bill of Rights.

I don't agree with it, but apparently school policies trump student's free-speech rights on a constant basis. What planet have you been living on?