The Gay Thread

[Not Afraid]

It is a derogatory term that come with a load of unsaid meaning behind it.

Even with animals, I use the term "breeding bitch" to describe what Kimchi was in S. Korea before she became a pet and a princess, as in "she was USED as a breeding bitch".

[Betty]

SM - I believe you when you say you don't mean it insultingly.

But if someone is offended by it - what can you say? Just because you didn't mean to hurt someone's feelings (or however you want to say it) doesn't mean they don't feel bad.

[Chernabog]

To me, using the term "breeder" goes along with a "them vs. us" attitude. It's a dismissive term to call hetero people in reaction to the (high quantity of) terms that are dismissively directed towards homos.

You know, like when someone you barely know is yammering on and on about their kids, you might think to yourself "grrrrr... friggin breeders, I swear!"

Is the term entirely accurate now that so many gays are having kids? Obviously not... but it's really just reactionary byproduct of how the gays have historically been treated -- from the outside looking in. On the grand scale of things, it isn't usually meant to be a horrible slur.... just sort of dismissive.

That being said, I think that "breeder" is about as offensive as calling someone a "fag hag." It *could* be offensive depending on the context, but it isn't like we need to call it "the b-word" or something totally childish like that.

[Betty]

How many gays must God create before we accept that he wants them around?

[innerSpaceman]

Hahahah, I used "breeder" in a sentence in my el jay today. TeeHee.

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Hahahah, I used "breeder" in a sentence in my el jay today. TeeHee.

Bigot

[Moonliner]

I was wondering why my initial comment was passed by without notice and then I run across it here.

That was an excellent discussion. Thanks to everyone that contributed.

[innerSpaceman]

Now on the next topic, then (as suggested by a rather stimulating discussion on Towleroad):

Is there unacceptable discrimination, judgmentalism, intolerance of more feminine gay men by more masculine gay men, and vice-versa?



(Don't know whether that will have any traction here, but it sure has sparked a doozie of a debate over there.)

[Strangler Lewis]

Which one is it assumed would be considered the more "light-skinned," assuming that's a factor?

[innerSpaceman]

The masculine dudes are the light-skinned bunch ... in that, the argument goes, they can fit in seamlessly with straight society and hide out there. Flamers have less luck with that.