Survivor - Heros vs Villians

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

Not to mention he still has the idol.

They would know that how? I doubt he told Sandra he has it.

At least on the surface the Heroes look to have better cohesion. Sandra and Jerry would flip over to them in a heartbeat. So that could lead to some tough times ahead for the Russell three.

JT and company have been so blindingly stupid that I could definitely see them saying, "Oh, those crafty girls, lying to us about Russel, trying to pretend there isn't an all girl alliance."

It's also going to bug Russell that (as far as he knows) they did not get a clue. I do wonder how much time he'll spend looking for his tribes Immunity Idol now that he knows one must be out there.

As far as Russell knows, the idol handed to him is the "same" idol as the one he had Parvati play to get Tyson out. There's no reason for him to know that it's a 2nd one.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

They would know that how? I doubt he told Sandra he has it.

I can't see that staying secret for long. At the very least, All the villains know there was no second idol played.

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

As far as Russell knows, the idol handed to him is the "same" idol as the one he had Parvati play to get Tyson out. There's no reason for him to know that it's a 2nd one.

Good point.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

I can't see that staying secret for long. At the very least, All the villains know there was no second idol played.

Maybe, but Sandra, and maybe Jerri, are the only ones with any reason to use that knowledge, and the heroes may very well be dumb enough to not believe them.

[scaeagles]

Blink. What. An. Idiot.

Well, idiot being primarilty JT, but a collective idiot for the team, too.

Next season - Idiots vs. Strategic masters.

[scaeagles]

First time around, I was a big fan of his.

I now regret that I ever cheered for someone so stupid.

However, what Parvati did in protecting both was really quite brilliant.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

First time around, I was a big fan of his.

I now regret that I ever cheered for someone so stupid.

However, what Parvati did in protecting both was really quite brilliant.

It was certainly surprising. However she could have let Jerri go and now be sitting with two immunity idols in her pocket.

[scaeagles]

I would suspect she bought herself a TON of loyalty from Jerri and Sandra. But I agree - it almost would have been the perfect time to flip. If she flips, votes with the heros, she's safe until there are 6 left. Win a couple immunity wins or turning them against each other and she makes it to the end.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I would suspect she bought herself a TON of loyalty from Jerri and Sandra. But I agree - it almost would have been the perfect time to flip. If she flips, votes with the heros, she's safe until there are 6 left. Win a couple immunity wins or turning them against each other and she makes it to the end.

With two immunity backing you up, it would be time to form your own alliance pulling from both sides.

As for loyalty, I would expect none of that from Sandra and not much more than lip service from Jerri. Plus Parv ticked off my boy. Statistically speaking that has not been a good move in the past...

[Moonliner]

Humm..

On the other hand, assuming Parv did not play an idol (let alone two).

The vote would have been a 5-5 tie. Jerri and JT sit out and they re-vote.

Now Parv has to worry that Sandra or Russel flip and vote her out so she would have to play one idol.

[Ghoulish Delight]

First, props to Sandra. It didn't work out thanks to the dumb she was dealing with, but she played it brilliantly, doing just enough to plant the seed without casting suspicion on herself.

Secondly...SHUT UP AMANDA! You are an atrocious liar.

As for Parvati, her only safe plays were either just playing one idol herself and chance a tie between JT and whomever the heroes ended up voting for, or do what she did. If she played the idol herself the Heroes would have been going around acting smug at their little ruse and, while she has no great loyalty to Jerri or Sandra, they are part of her existing alliance and in this game it's always safer to keep an existing alliance going as long as possible. By instead doing what she did, even with giving up both idols, she gains a lot more power. She caused the outcome of that vote, rather than the Heroes.


But now she's got to act fast because Russell will no longer trust her. She's got Danielle who will obviously do anything P tells her. Sandra will vote for Russell in a blink, and probably Jerri too. Though from the looks of the preview, Sandra might beat her to it. Parvati would probably have wanted to wait for one more vote so that if she does get Russell off, the villains would still be up 4-3. But Sandra would be fine with actually flipping.