Lost!

[katiesue]

Originally Posted by Stan4dSteph

But Claire's last name isn't Shephard.

But Sawyer is up there as Ford which is his "real" last name. How do we know that Shephard isn't Claires?

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by katiesue

But Sawyer is up there as Ford which is his "real" last name. How do we know that Shephard isn't Claires?

Claire's last name is Littleton. Probably her mother's last name.

[JWBear]

I don't think it's going to be Claire. She has the "sickness".

Why is it so hard to believe that "Shephard" referrs to Jack?

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by JWBear

Why is it so hard to believe that "Shephard" referrs to Jack?

Agreed, especially since in that cave they showed some very specific flashbacks of Jacob touching people, including Jack.

[bewitched]

Originally Posted by JWBear

I don't think it's going to be Claire. She has the "sickness".

Why is it so hard to believe that "Shephard" referrs to Jack?

I think it most likely is Jack.

I do not think it is Claire.

I am intrigued by the possibility of it being Aaron.


I'm still curious as to whose list it really is.

[JWBear]

I love Lostpedia.

These are bits from the current episode's page's"Cultural References" section:

James Ford is listening to The Stooges' "Search and Destroy." Which contains the lyrics, "I am the world's forgotten boy; the one who searches, searching to destroy," and "I'm the runaway son of a nuclear A-bomb". The lyrics also plead "Somebody gotta save my soul."

The cave that the Man in Black takes Sawyer to can be a reference to this philosophical concept attributed to Plato. The idea that people live their lives and form ideas that are not indicative of reality is mirrored in the Man in Black's view that Jacob manipulated everyone he brought to the Island into believing certain ideas.

Sawyer and the Man in Black descend "Jacob's Ladder" and arrive at a cave formerly inhabited by Jacob. A Jacob's Ladder has significance in both the Jewish and Christian religions, having many interpretations, among them that it is a bridge between heaven and earth. Saint John Climacus (also known as John of the Ladder) wrote a book called "Ladder of the Divine Ascent" which uses Jacob's Ladder as an analogy for the ascetic life. It is frequently read by Orthodox Christians during the Lent season before Easter. The episode "The Substitute" aired the night before the start of non-Orthodox Lent (Ash Wednesday) (which does not coincide with Orthodox Great Lent).

Jacob manipulatess people to the island who are possible candiates for his job and there were only 5 left until the death of locke. Willy Wonka invite's 5 children into his chocolate factory under the guise of a tour so that he can find a replacement.

In one of his flashes-sideways, John Locke (at the time a bald, wheelchair-bound teacher) asks for Earl Grey tea. Given their fondness for all things science fiction, this was likely a nod on the producer's part to Sir Patrick Stewart, who played both Captain Jean-Luc Picard (who always requested Earl Grey tea and was bald) and Professor Charles Xavier (a bald, wheelchair-bound teacher).

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Wow, Willy Wonka. Talk about throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks.

[JWBear]

The producers are known to purposely load the show with cultural references. Is the Wonka resemblance intentional or a coincidence? I don't know, but I wouldn't put it past them.

[Ghoulish Delight]

The Wonka seems particularly like a stretch since it starts out with, "If you remove one of the people, THEN it matches exactly!" I always question a "reference" that relies on "if you change something about this situation, it totally matches this other situation."

[lashbear]

So are we going to refer to him as:
MIB
Smoky
NotLocke
Unlocke
Smoked Lox

We should try to keep our nomenclature the same so we don't get confused

I quite like Unlocke, but since he has been other people as well, then MIB (Man In Black) also gets my vote.

What do Y'all think?