Lost!

[sleepyjeff]

Some things to ponder:

Way back in season 2 Sun lost her wedding ring.....she didn't find it until she stopped looking for it.

But now the law of finding something seems to be reversed.....can't find a 40 foot tall lighthouse unless you are looking for it

Dogen, Illana, and Richard all seem to think the Temple is the safest place for the Losties......and they claim to be followers of Jacob......why does Jacob himself believe otherwise?

Back in Season 2 we have Mr. Friendly wearing a fake beard and all of the others supposedly acting like they are a group of tattered hillbillies....only to find out they actually live in suburbia.....now, come to find out they(at least the ones in the temple) live more like the hillbillies than the suburbanites

Continuing along with that thought are we EVER going to find out why Ben was so upset with Mr. Friendly for not wearing his disguise??? I got a feeling we are not

After watching David's concert Dogen comes up to Jack and says "It's hard to watch and be unable to help"......which leads one to think that perhaps this alternated Dogen knows more than our alternate Losties.....but the word "watch" really stuck out to me as it is the same word used by Cindy three seasons ago:

[Back on the island, Jack wakes up startled in his cage. The camera reveals about a dozen people standing outside the cage.]

JACK [frustrated]: What?!!!

CINDY [approaching]: Hey, Jack.

JACK: Do I -- do I know you? 815, you were the stewardess.

CINDY: Cindy.

JACK: What are you doing here -- with them? I thought you were taken -- you were -- you were captured.

CINDY: They're not, um -- it's not that simple.

JACK: What are they doing here, right now? What are you doing here?!!

CINDY: We're here to watch, Jack.

JACK: Watch what?

[The little girl, Emma, from the tail section approaches.]

CINDY: What is it, sweetheart?

[Emma whispers in her ear and waits with a big smile.]

CINDY: She wants to know how Ana-Lucia's doing.

JACK: Are you serious?

CINDY: What?

JACK [angry]: If you've got something to watch, Cindy, go watch it!! Go!!

[The little boy, Zach, hands his teddy bear to Emma and stares at Jack in confusion as the group of people walk away from Jack.]

I am totally LOST

[SzczerbiakManiac]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

Dogen, Illana, and Richard all seem to think the Temple is the safest place for the Losties......and they claim to be followers of Jacob......why does Jacob himself believe otherwise?

Because MiB broke the rules? (just a guess)

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

Continuing along with that thought are we EVER going to find out why Ben was so upset with Mr. Friendly for not wearing his disguise??? I got a feeling we are not

I always though The Others did that so they'd look like other (previous) crash survivors. Had the Others approached the Losties dressed in non-tattered clothes, the Losties would certainly wonder how this was possible, start asking questions, and seek them out. When Mr. Friendly broke the illusion, Ben got pissed.

<shrug>

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

Dogen, Illana, and Richard all seem to think the Temple is the safest place for the Losties......and they claim to be followers of Jacob......why does Jacob himself believe otherwise?

Because, as Ben proved by admitting he'd never seen Jacob, they only THINK they know what Jacob wants. Likely possibilities are that they were actually being given instructions by MIB rather than Jacob, or that they were receiving instructions for Jacob but Jacob was not honest about his goals and that his protection of them was limited only until such time as protecting them no longer suited his needs.

[BarTopDancer]

Was it Jacob in the rocking chair inside the cabin a few years ago? Or was that smokey taking a human form? I forget

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by SzczerbiakManiac

Because MiB broke the rules? (just a guess)

I always though The Others did that so they'd look like other (previous) crash survivors. Had the Others approached the Losties dressed in non-tattered clothes, the Losties would certainly wonder how this was possible, start asking questions, and seek them out. When Mr. Friendly broke the illusion, Ben got pissed.

<shrug>

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Because, as Ben proved by admitting he'd never seen Jacob, they only THINK they know what Jacob wants. Likely possibilities are that they were actually being given instructions by MIB rather than Jacob, or that they were receiving instructions for Jacob but Jacob was not honest about his goals and that his protection of them was limited only until such time as protecting them no longer suited his needs.

Sounds pretty good

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

Was it Jacob in the rocking chair inside the cabin a few years ago? Or was that smokey taking a human form? I forget

That is the 64 million dollar question.......

[Ghoulish Delight]

I forgot the third option - they're all entirely deluded and never received instructions from anyone with neither Jacob nor the MIB not caring one whit what happened to them ever.


And of course this being Lost, and considering the slight of hand they pulled by introducing the MIB out of nowhere, maybe it'll turn out that Jack is not actually Jack, but a manifestation of some Woman in Gray who we've never been introduced to before or something.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

Was it Jacob in the rocking chair inside the cabin a few years ago? Or was that smokey taking a human form? I forget

Unknown. The implication at the time was that the shadowy figure in the rocking chair was actually Jacob. By the time Christian and Claire showed up at the Cabin, they were strongly implicating that Jacob definitely no longer was there, but left open the question of whether the first figure we saw was Jacob, or if Jacob had ever been there.

[sleepyjeff]

It sorta fits with how everything has played out.

I think we understand now from Ilana's declaration that Jacob had not been in that cabin for a long time that it was the MiB who was occupying it when Locke and Ben first went there together. We know that Claire is on the same team as the MiB and/or Christian so it all makes sense looking back at Locke's solo visit to the cabin when he first meets Christian and Claire is sitting there.

The plan for the island to be moved may have had nothing to do with Keamy and the rest of Widmore's crew. It could have been part of the MiBs loophole to get Locke off the island, die and then have his body brought back to manipulate Ben into killing Jacob. Maybe this is why Christian scolded Locke that -HE- was supposed to move the island, not Ben. So...when we look back to that first visit to the cabin with Locke and Ben it makes perfectly good sense that the Dark Man..MiB... said to Locke "help me."

[Ghoulish Delight]

Odds are the figure that Locke saw in the rocking chair was not Smokey because at that point the cabin was surrounded by ash, which thus far has shown no other purpose than fending off Smokey (though perhaps different ash fends off different beings). Whether that means it was actually Jacob or not is unresolvable. Though, even with just a shadowy profile, he certainly didn't look anything like Jacob as we know him now.