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		 In thinking of it, it seems that the terrorists are in fact fighting a losing battle, if they want us to leave their countries alone, it would be wisest to leave us alone.  But that is a slightly buzzed infidel mind thinking, and not a pure follower of islam with someteen virgins waiting for me in a made up utopia land.  But really, the more they(the terrorists) bomb, destroy, etc, our country and our friends countries, the more that the push to mess with their ideology will come from our leadership, and in a sense, rightly so.  Its a losing game, the only way to win, is not to play. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Well all our English friends in that area are all alright, one said he was bruised up from the running mob right aroung King's Cross, other than that, everyone was just at home (none of our friends at 9-5ers who commute, as it so happens). 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Jan Wenner has already decided that Bush is to blame... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	Is it even possible to see both the left and the right meet in the middle to condemn this tragedy? Rather than finger point and play the blame game, is not the real issue how best to to proceed rather than beat each other up over whose perceived fault it is? Posters on both sides agree that terrorism existed pre-9/11 and pre-Iraq - Our actions have challenged it, met it head on, inflamed it, made it better, made it worse, all bringing us to this point: NOW WHAT? It doesn't matter who started it. What matters is how we finish it. It is beyond ridiculous to see Red vs Blue America at a time like this. It's not Clinton's fault. Or Bush's fault. WE started it. All of us. Red and Blue. We drive the cars. We buy the oil. We buddy up to the bad guys and look the other way when we have to. We propped up the bad guys to begin with. Hell, we invented them. And now, the playing field has been leveled, and we just look like the thug cops who beat Rodney King's sorry ass, taking advantage of the opressed. The bitter harvest is here, so let's all work together and fix the ****ing thing. We can't hide our heads in the sand, nor can we pick a fight with an exit strategy written in crayon on a candy bar wrapper. We really need to evolve. All of us. Humanity. And as much as we need to give the Arab Street McDonald's and cable TV, we also need to do our best to disrupt and extinguish the newly franchised disenfranchised. (I just made that up) If we can't evolve the planet, at least we need to evolve ourselves. And why is it that people are only nice to each other after a tsunami, or a bombing, or Christmas?  | 
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		 When the French got involved in the American Revolution, it was active, initiated by the citizens themselves.  In Iraq, there was no active revolution, unless you count the Kurds, and even they had pretty much carved their niched and stopped at that.  The fact remains that no revolution that's been initiated by outside forces has ever lead to a successful, stable nation. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 So when do we invade England and their homegrown terrorists? You know, fight the terrorists over there so we don't have to fight them here. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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				Have the terrorists reached the bottom of the barrel?
			 
			http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...itain_train_dc 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			I am not expert; but it seems to me they are getting more and more desperate with less and less sophistication. 
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		 Who is getting more desperate? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Good question.....but I mean the terrorists themselves.  I know this is serious stuff but this latest attempt seems to me a bit lame. Almost like those old superman shows when the bad guy runs out of bullets then throws the gun at Superman....just my take on it, I have no idea if there is anything to it or not. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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