JuKoon [must be] soon!

[mousepod]

Not that I've done JuKoon... but I guess technically it can be any time from September 9 to September 29 this year... (if you're going in line with the Jewish ritual stuff).

[innerSpaceman]

Huh?

[BarTopDancer]

Considering Ju-Koon is a made up holiday involving traditions from the High Holidays I don't see why the event has to be on a specific date.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

I hate Jewish holidays, or rather the timing of them. They never got the memo about standardized dates - or rather, I suppose they thought the memo was part of a Roman plot to wipe them off the face of the earth, and thus rejected it.

So, while pleasantly tribal, Jewish holidays are still worked off the phases and timing of the moon and, for all I know, sticks cast among the reeds. So they're never on the same date each year, and generally "float" among a time period of roughly a month in either direction.

Pssh, you're a fan of this mess we call a calendar? Thirty days hath September, April June and November, all the rest have 31, except yadda yadda made up stuff...at least the moon is a real thing to measure by. Also, Jewish calendar is older. DIBS on marking time!

(Though I guess if you go Jewish calendar you have to count the Omer....no parties for 40 days suuuuux, especially if your birthday tends to fall in the middle of it.)

[innerSpaceman]

BTD: Ju Koon is NOT a made-up holiday. It's thousands of years old and is the most sacred day to a religious faith that makes Christianity look like a pimply teenager. We call it Ju-Koon for fun's sake, and have developed some fun new traditions - while holding fast to the old one that, I'm told really belongs to Rosh Hashana, which we have no funny name for (ok, the real name is funny enough).

So, no, we cannot simply "pick" a date for Ju Koon.

[€uroMeinke]

However, I think we can pick a date for Vaginismus

[mousepod]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Huh?

Since the casting of stuff into water is pretty much Tashlich...

On the first day of Rosh Hashanah (September 9) after the afternoon prayer, we go to a lake, river or sea (preferably a body of water that has fish), and recite the Tashlich prayers, wherein we symbolically cast our sins into the water and leave our old shortcomings behind us, thus starting the new year with a clean slate.
If the first day of Rosh Hashanah falls on Shabbat, Tashlich is done on the second day of Rosh Hashanah. If one is unable to perform this ceremony on Rosh Hashanah, one may do so until the last day of Sukkot (this year, September 29, 2010).

[innerSpaceman]

Yeah, but see, we're not celebrating Rosh Hashanah; we're celebrating Yom Kippur aka Ju Koon. With incorporated traditions from Rosh Hashanah and, well, Ju Koon.

I suppose you're right in that the central tradition is not anchored to Rosh Hashanah, and certainly not to Yom Kippur. And I suppose since Ju Koon is only anchored to Yom Kippur by virtue of the tradition belonging to a different holiday altogether, we could conceivably make up the date for Ju Koon. Heck, it could be in April.

But making up the date, imo, demeans the fact of it being a holiday. The beauty (and sometimes inconvenience) of a holiday is that it is when it is, not when it works out for you and assorted other people you want to make plans with. That's called a swanking. We haven't had one of those in a while either, btw.

Anyway, you have to be up for Christmas on December 25th, for Independence Day on July 4th. Ju Koon falls on a Friday night and Saturday this year, which is a big bonus for getting together. But that's when it is - and Ju Koon is trademarked, so don't even think of calling some other day "Ju Koon." The Ju's will sue.

[flippyshark]

I hope I won't be thumped too hard, but can I ask how the name Ju Koon is derived, and how this LoT tradition (about which I know nothing) got started? Alas, I can't join y'all for it in any case, but having just done a Google search on the term, and come up empty-handed, I gather this requires enlightenment from founders.

[SzczerbiakManiac]

Just a reminder, Easter is lunar based (first Sunday after the first full moon in Spring), so Christianity is not off the hook for this roaming holiday thing.