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Old 01-18-2012, 03:37 PM   #41
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Is it out of conference yet?

I'll protest when it matters and not waste time punching sand. And if other people protesting before then manages to actually result in meaningful stoppage then I get to keep all that energy for other things.
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Old 01-18-2012, 05:01 PM   #42
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Old 01-18-2012, 05:12 PM   #43
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done and emailed. will likely do so again.
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Old 01-18-2012, 06:55 PM   #44
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Is it out of conference yet?

I'll protest when it matters and not waste time punching sand. And if other people protesting before then manages to actually result in meaningful stoppage then I get to keep all that energy for other things.
I'm of the opinion that this is heinous enough to require earlier action. Any acceptance of bandying about such ugly ideas is dangerous, and even if it doesn't get any further this time, emboldens the censors for the next battle. Of course there are dozens of other things going on that need strident attention, too.
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Old 01-18-2012, 07:03 PM   #45
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Go forth and multiply (though I wish my twitter and Facebook and RSS feeds weren't 60% on the topic). I'll join you when it is likely (in my opinion) to achieve any meaningful result. And I hope I'm wrong and you all solve the problem before I feel the need to start caring.

I disagree with the bill. But:

1) I think it is unlikely to ever come to a vote in its current form, regardless of protest.

2) Regardless of changes to the individual chambers' bills, those charges are meaningless since committee can put them all back when the visibility is lower.

3) If it comes to a vote and passes, a veto is reasonably likely.

4) If somehow it isn't vetoed, I'm pretty confident it wouldn't survive judicial review. It's worse than all the people yammering on about having a good new year and "hey, did you know Jesus was a thing" a few weeks back.

So getting involved between 2 and 3 seems like a good compromise for my energies. And if all my (preferably quieter, I heard everybody well before their 63rd tweet on the topic and didn't need sixteen people giving me an identical tweetathon on which website slightly inconvenienced their customers) acquaintances accomplish their goals not only will they get the glow of accomplishment they'll get to look on me pityingly as the guy too lazy to matter.

Essentially, while I agree with the goal, 80% of the people I know online turned into annoying robocallers the day before an election. It's worse than all the yammering about having a happy new year and the "hey, did you know Jesus was a thing" stuff a few weeks back.
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Old 01-18-2012, 07:59 PM   #46
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If anything this will get a bunch of younger people involved in the political process. Well this and Stephen Colbert running for the United States of South Carolina as Herman Cain.
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Old 01-20-2012, 10:04 AM   #47
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According to MSN the SOPA bill has been withdrawn.

If I could figure out cut and paste on the tablet..... sorry.
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Old 01-20-2012, 10:26 AM   #48
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Good!

I haven't figured out cut and paste on my tablet, either.
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Old 01-20-2012, 10:34 AM   #49
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According to MSN the SOPA bill has been withdrawn.

If I could figure out cut and paste on the tablet..... sorry.
You have to press and hold the text, then little bars come up for you to highlight the text. I use a stylus, but it's still a bit of a PITA
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Old 01-20-2012, 11:03 AM   #50
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According to MSN the SOPA bill has been withdrawn.
Postponed. Very different than "withdrawn". We still need to keep an eye on what happens next but postponed is definitely a step in the right direction.
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