Katrina Response Mismanagement - Page 21

wendybeth · 09-13-2005, 10:12 PM

"You must spread some Mojo around before giving it to Motorboat Cruiser again."

Lol!
Scaeagles, I'm all for personal responsibility and smaller govt as well, primarily because I think if we had a smaller central government perhaps we wouldn't get into so much mischief abroad. The situation is that we do not have a small government and things are set up a certain way. We have to set aside personal preferences for another time- the system that is currently in place failed, and in a very big way. I hope you do not live on a fault line, or in a flood zone, or near a volcano, or anywhere the non-existant global warming may impact in a negative way.

Ghoulish Delight · 09-14-2005, 09:57 AM

I don't think it was ever above sea level, but yes it was significantly closer to sea level. The whole "bowl" is nothing but silt deposited by thousands of years of flooding of the Mississippi. Once the city was built and the river leveed off, the silt began to compact and it was no longer replenished by regular floods.

innerSpaceman · 09-14-2005, 10:54 AM

Kurt Vonnegut said a very amusing, but possibly perceptive, thing on the Daily Show last night. Something to the effect that the Earth's immune system is trying its best to kill us. We are indeed, as agent Smith wisely noted, a virus.

When it comes right down to it, the flooding of New Orleans and the ravishment of the Gulf Coast is all due to human development in those areas. We can blame the government for not shoring up the levees, but those levees are part of the problem. There is no ultimate solution to our benefit for these problems. They are manmade, and nature will trump man in the end.

Nephythys · 09-14-2005, 11:59 AM

I just love one of the newest excuses for the buses- that Nagin can't get people out to work on a sunny day, they certainly won't work when a hurricane is coming.

According to Nagin- no one would drive the buses- uh huh, all those people and NONE of them would drive? What, is there a bus union that keeps non-union people from driving to get away from a hurricane?

Huh?

Gemini Cricket · 09-14-2005, 12:55 PM

I don't understand why the Senate voted down a Katrina Commission...

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Gn2Dlnd · 09-14-2005, 01:43 PM

Oh Mori, Mori, Mori. The Katrina response is an example of the Bush admin's cronyism and classism, not an indictment of the U.S. government.

Morrigoon · 09-14-2005, 01:52 PM

Feh! The Katrina response is an indictment of the ineptitude of government on ALL levels.

Ghoulish Delight · 09-14-2005, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Morrigoon

Feh! The Katrina response is an indictment of the ineptitude of government on ALL levels.

FEMA was well on its way to functionality (again I point to the excellent response to the Northridge quake) until it got slapped under Homeland Security and stripped of its cabinet level position. The head, who had made some good changes quit and was replaced with Browny. And here we are.

Gn2Dlnd · 09-14-2005, 01:58 PM

Well, in the interest of keeping roads paved and food safe, I'd like to keep the government, if you don't mind.

The pros and cons of dismantling the government would make an interesting new thread, though.

innerSpaceman · 09-14-2005, 02:12 PM

The government is actually doing a lousy job of keeping roads paved and food safe. But who would you have replace them on those functions, Morrigoon.

Oh, and answer about food saftey first, if you wouldn't mind.

09-13-2005, 10:12 PM	#1
wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	"You must spread some Mojo around before giving it to Motorboat Cruiser again." Lol! Scaeagles, I'm all for personal responsibility and smaller govt as well, primarily because I think if we had a smaller central government perhaps we wouldn't get into so much mischief abroad. The situation is that we do not have a small government and things are set up a certain way. We have to set aside personal preferences for another time- the system that is currently in place failed, and in a very big way. I hope you do not live on a fault line, or in a flood zone, or near a volcano, or anywhere the non-existant global warming may impact in a negative way. __________________
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09-14-2005, 09:57 AM	#2
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	I don't think it was ever above sea level, but yes it was significantly closer to sea level. The whole "bowl" is nothing but silt deposited by thousands of years of flooding of the Mississippi. Once the city was built and the river leveed off, the silt began to compact and it was no longer replenished by regular floods. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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09-14-2005, 10:54 AM	#3
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Kurt Vonnegut said a very amusing, but possibly perceptive, thing on the Daily Show last night. Something to the effect that the Earth's immune system is trying its best to kill us. We are indeed, as agent Smith wisely noted, a virus. When it comes right down to it, the flooding of New Orleans and the ravishment of the Gulf Coast is all due to human development in those areas. We can blame the government for not shoring up the levees, but those levees are part of the problem. There is no ultimate solution to our benefit for these problems. They are manmade, and nature will trump man in the end.
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09-14-2005, 11:59 AM	#4
Nephythys Yeah, that's about it- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a state of constant crap to get done Posts: 2,688	I just love one of the newest excuses for the buses- that Nagin can't get people out to work on a sunny day, they certainly won't work when a hurricane is coming. According to Nagin- no one would drive the buses- uh huh, all those people and NONE of them would drive? What, is there a bus union that keeps non-union people from driving to get away from a hurricane? Huh?
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09-14-2005, 12:55 PM	#5
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	I don't understand why the Senate voted down a Katrina Commission... Click
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09-14-2005, 01:43 PM	#6
Gn2Dlnd Parmmadore Jim Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Casita del Queso Posts: 3,810	Oh Mori, Mori, Mori. The Katrina response is an example of the Bush admin's cronyism and classism, not an indictment of the U.S. government. __________________ Does anyone still wear a hat?
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Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	Feh! The Katrina response is an indictment of the ineptitude of government on ALL levels. __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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09-14-2005, 01:58 PM	#9
Gn2Dlnd Parmmadore Jim Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Casita del Queso Posts: 3,810	Well, in the interest of keeping roads paved and food safe, I'd like to keep the government, if you don't mind. The pros and cons of dismantling the government would make an interesting new thread, though. __________________ Does anyone still wear a hat?
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09-14-2005, 02:12 PM	#10
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	The government is actually doing a lousy job of keeping roads paved and food safe. But who would you have replace them on those functions, Morrigoon. Oh, and answer about food saftey first, if you wouldn't mind.
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