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Old 02-15-2006, 09:30 AM   #1
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MediaMatters.com 's take on the UCLA study
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Old 02-15-2006, 10:13 AM   #2
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Of course there are examples of left leaning and right leaning. Our perspective of which way it goes in the overall is relative to where we are on the political spectrum as well. We could get into anecdote by anecdote and never run out of examples supporting our position.
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Old 02-15-2006, 10:25 AM   #3
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I don't listen to Laura for unbiased opinion! But I do listen to her uncover the media bias.

A few weeks ago she said something similar to herself when talking about CBS News, and how ironic that organizations such as CBS -- which are supposedly the "gold standard" news reporting -- are completely biased. She then pointed out that she's not unbiased and is not trying to pass her show off that way, but that organizations which market themselves as being unbiased should truly act that way.
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Old 02-15-2006, 10:47 AM   #4
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Chris Rock once referred to Laura I. as "one cold bitch"- I think he was pretty right with his analysis.

As for Clinton and investigations, might I remind you that Kenneth Star, paragon of legal virtue and darling of the Republicans, was recently nailed for submitting fabricated letters to the court while appealing for clemency for a client?
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Old 02-15-2006, 11:04 AM   #5
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Are we talking about the same Laura I.?

I've heard her be very harsh on people -- in particular I remember this interview with a member of Code Pink. By the time Ingraham was done with her, the woman was absolutely sputtering and couldn't say anything intelligible because Laura defeated every single one of the woman's lame arguments and actually got the woman to contradict herself. Laura is harsh and cold if she wants to be. But she was still respectful during the entire interview. She has a lot of tact.

But to say that's how she is in general, give me a break! I listen to her every morning, and she is a warm, witty, intelligent, and caring woman. But I suppose if you get on her bad side and she beats you in a debate you may have that view of her. It's called being a sore loser.

Last week she visited Iraq. I recommend everyone read her Iraq Journal.
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It was Comedy Central's Indecision/Politically Incorrect show, and Chris was 'reporting' from the floor of the Republican Convention. It was one of the few times I've ever seen her shut her mouth for more than two seconds.

(Chris was just commenting on her rant against liberals, welfare and such- not engaged in a conversation with her).
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I'll take on the culture of corruption. I just get in trouble for bringing up such things from past administrations. I could post some very interesting figures on the number of Clinton associates and business partners who were indicted and or convicted. I could post links about Reno and Espy and Cisneros and Gore....well, you get the idea.

MBC, you say the investigations during the Clinton adminstration led to nowhere, but then point to investigations in this adminstration that have led to...well....nowhere, and in fact included Abramoff in the list, who was involved with both parties. So...if you want I can post the numbers of indictments and convictions and a historical perspective of other administrations and special investigations.
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MBC, you say the investigations during the Clinton adminstration led to nowhere, but then point to investigations in this adminstration that have led to...well....nowhere.
Don't you think that it is just a tad premature to say that the current investigations have led nowhere?
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Don't you think that it is just a tad premature to say that the current investigations have led nowhere?
Sorry - I figured "as of yet" was implied in my statement. Of course it is premature to say nothing is going to come of them.
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I'll take on the culture of corruption. I just get in trouble for bringing up such things from past administrations. I could post some very interesting figures on the number of Clinton associates and business partners who were indicted and or convicted. I could post links about Reno and Espy and Cisneros and Gore....well, you get the idea.
The sad part is that, it doen't matter what the party affiliation is, the corruption is previlent throughout. I think we get bogged down in who is better or, rather, who is more corrupt when, really does it matter. There really shouldn't be sizable corruption at all.

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