Pledge

[Prudence]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

The under God thing aside, I never much liked pledging allegiance to a flag. The whole flag culture thing always seemed to border on idolitry.

Yes! I had the devil's own time getting permission to not salute the flag every morning in high school. (even though I believe it's illegal to require students to do so.) The argument is that the flag represents the ideals, but I disagree. The flag represents a political entity, and while the ideals may be implicit, they're also not stated outright and therefore can be conceptually separated. I'd much rather explicitly pledge to the ideals.

[Alex]

I never had any problem for teachers for not saying it. They were more caught up on how it was possible that I wouldn't want anything done for my birthday than me not pledging allegiance or putting my hand over my heart during the national anthem.

The "one humanity, indivisible" is where I get caught up since humanity is almost infinitely dvisible and people like it that way.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

The "one humanity, indivisible" is where I get caught up since humanity is almost infinitely dvisible and people like it that way.

I meant it in the sense that I believe that the base freedoms, if not the exact practice, at the heart of the ideals of the founding of this country should be applied to all people, not just those that happen to be citizens here.