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[mousepod]

Sorry to drag up a topic from a couple of pages ago, Shadoe, but I can't let you get away with your ridiculous Ann Coulter/Al Franken comment.

Each of Ann Coulter's four books has been a slam at the Left. Liberal-bashing is her bread and butter.

Al Franken was a professional comedian and writer for over 20 years before he published 'Rush Limbaugh is A Big Fat Idiot'.

Just thought a little truth might be in order here.

[The Shadoe]

Originally Posted by wendybeth

The junior college comment was a joke- kind of. A sort of 'you get what you pay for 'joke, which here in my neck of America means the Wal-Mart version of academics. Can't speak for your state, Shadoe.

We could argue political science and Lying Liars all night, but I have to go to bed- got to work tomorrow. Someone has to pay for this ****ing war.

Believe me, I'm working as well. I'm in class full-time on Tuesdays and Thursdays and working full-time as the Director of I/T at DiscBurn MWF and sometimes Saturday if we get a rush job. Not to puff up my chest about what I do, but I really enjoy my job and my co-workers, so I usually am pretty excited to go there. I do miss when we were located downtown St Paul though. Something about people-watching and fancy high-rises with skyways is so much fun.

Anyhow, it has been a good debate, and certainly great for doing "mental pushups!" I do like debating people, perhaps too much so sometimes.

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Originally Posted by The Shadoe

Anyhow, if people like Coulter, Limbaugh, Ingraham, Medved, etc. were to disappear, Franken would have nothing to talk about. He talks about them on an almost daily basis, whereas they rarely talk about him at all.

Perhaps he talks about them every day because they have a tendency to lie every day. I suspect that if there were no lies to catch them in, he would probably have to find something else to do. As it stands, they give him plenty of material. And as someone else said, if he is libelous, where are the lawsuits? The one from O'Reilly and Fox was laughed out of the courtroom.

[MickeyLumbo]

Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic

Fvckers.

i get goosebumps when you talk dirty

[Gemini Cricket]

The best part about Bush's mess ups is that I get to sit back and say 'Well, I didn't vote for him.'


I've totally wasted my breath talking about Ann Coulter in the past. I think there's a lot of self-hate there.

[MickeyLumbo]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

The best part about Bush's mess ups is that I get to sit back and say 'Well, I didn't vote for him.'


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well i did, after careful thought and sorting out my priorities and realizing that the nation's security was a top priority for me... everything else that was (and still is) important to me seemed moot if terrorist attacks 9or potential of) continued to bring the country to it's knees.

but, giving the job of security to company's with strong ties to foreign governments, who in turn have ties to terrorism, makes no sense to me.

[SacTown Chronic]

Originally Posted by The Shadoe

Laura Ingraham recently went all out on the Today show, criticizing them for not telling the whole story, not talking to the soldiers, and not talking to the citizens. It looks like there has now been an Ingraham effect... what's that? More positive news from Iraq? Seems like MSM is trying to paint LI as being wrong. Too late.

An Ingraham effect? Urm, no.

The following are examples from recent days of Bush and administration officials directing blame at the media's coverage of Iraq:

On March 19, Vice President Dick Cheney appeared on CBS' Face the Nation and answered a question about the sagging support for the Iraq war by noting that "there's a constant sort of perception, if you will, that's created because what's newsworthy is the car bomb in Baghdad."

During a March 20 press gaggle, White House press secretary Scott McClellan discussed the speech Bush would give later that day in Cleveland. McClellan said that the "dramatic images that people see on the TV screens ... are much easier to put into a news clip" and told reporters that the president would address the "real progress being made toward a democratic future."
In his speech to the City Club of Cleveland, Bush said he understood "how some Americans have had their confidence shaken." He continued: "Others look at the violence they see each night on their television screens, and they wonder how I can remain so optimistic about the prospects of success in Iraq." Bush then talked about the town of Tal Afar, which he described as a "concrete example of progress in Iraq that most Americans do not see every day in their newspapers and on their television screens."
Later in the speech, Bush said: "The kind of progress that we and the Iraqi people are making in places like Tal Afar is not easy to capture in a short clip on the evening news. Footage of children playing, or shops opening, and people resuming their normal lives will never be as dramatic as the footage of an IED explosion, or the destruction of a mosque, or soldiers and civilians being killed or injured."

During a March 21 press conference, Bush said that "for every act of violence, there is encouraging progress in Iraq that's hard to capture on the evening news."

Later in the press conference, Bush claimed that he had presented "a realistic assessment of the enemy's capability to affect the debate. ... They're capable of blowing up innocent life so it ends up on your TV show. And, therefore, it affects the woman in Cleveland you were talking to. And I can understand how Americans are worried about whether or not we can win. "

As the White House mounted its offensive in recent days, the Bush administration's argument that news outlets have consistently ignored the good news in Iraq in favor of reports on bombings, kidnappings, and other atrocities has echoed throughout the media. For instance, as MSNBC host Keith Olbermann noted on the March 22 edition of Countdown, radio talk show host Laura Ingraham appeared on NBC's Today on March 21 and complained that the network's Iraq correspondents only "report[] from hotel balconies about the latest IEDs [improvised explosive devices] going off." Later that day, in an appearance on Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor, Ingraham claimed that there are many in the media "who are invested in America's defeat." O'Reilly, in turn, expressed his belief that "there is a segment of the media trying to undermine the policy in Iraq for their own ideological purposes," as Media Matters for America noted.

Actually what you have here is the latest administration excuses for failure talking points being distributed to, and parroted by, all the usual suspects. Blaming the media seems like the last, and most desperate, act of a nothing's-our-fault administration.

But hey, far be it for me to come between you and Laura I. Carry on with the hero worship.

[SacTown Chronic]

Originally Posted by MickeyLumbo

well i did, after careful thought and sorting out my priorities and realizing that the nation's security was a top priority for me...

Originally Posted by GWB 3/21/06

"You know, we used to think we were secure because of oceans and previous diplomacy. But we realized on September the 11th, 2001, that killers could destroy innocent life."

A man who thought oceans protected us, a man who apparently never heard of Pearl fvcking Harbor, a man who allowed the executions of numerous people when he was governor of Texas despite being unaware that killers can destroy innocent life, a man who was asleep at the switch on 9/11/01, would not be my first, second, or ten billionth choice to protect our country.

[Gemini Cricket]

Here's my "a ha!" moment for the day:

Being angry helps you vent, but it's no fun dwelling in the Madlands.

[The Shadoe]

Originally Posted by mousepod

Sorry to drag up a topic from a couple of pages ago, Shadoe, but I can't let you get away with your ridiculous Ann Coulter/Al Franken comment.

Each of Ann Coulter's four books has been a slam at the Left. Liberal-bashing is her bread and butter.

Al Franken was a professional comedian and writer for over 20 years before he published 'Rush Limbaugh is A Big Fat Idiot'.

Just thought a little truth might be in order here.

That's not news to me. The difference is that Ann Coulter is successful at what she does. She doesn't NEED to sit there talking about Al Franken the way he talks about her. And in general she doesn't. He, on the other hand, talks about her all the time. It's almost creepy, like he has a crush on her or something.

An Ingraham effect? Urm, no.

How about a positive YES!

A man who thought oceans protected us, a man who apparently never heard of Pearl fvcking Harbor, a man who allowed the executions of numerous people when he was governor of Texas despite being unaware that killers can destroy innocent life, a man who was asleep at the switch on 9/11/01, would not be my first, second, or ten billionth choice to protect our country.

That's not what Bush thought. That's what the country thought. The 'we' refers to the United States of America. The concept he is talking about is called isolationism, something the nation was steeped in until we were forced out of it in World War II.

The best part about Bush's mess ups is that I get to sit back and say 'Well, I didn't vote for him.'

WWKD? (What Would Kerry Do?) Think about the screw-ups he would've caused, and had he been in the presidency, I could kick back too and say "Well, I didn't vote for him." I could do that, but I wouldn't. Sitting back and watching a person make mistakes isn't my bag. No matter who is in office, I'd rather that they succeed and do some good. I might not be fond of them or voted for them, but they deserve some dignity. I think most of us learnedabout helping others in kindergarten... sitting back and being carefree is rather cruel. So much for the "compassionate, caring, accepting liberals"...

Actually what you have here is the latest administration excuses for failure talking points being distributed to, and parroted by, all the usual suspects. Blaming the media seems like the last, and most desperate, act of a nothing's-our-fault administration.

Do you honestly think that the media is unbiased? And that they are reporting the whole story? What do you think people's views of the war are going to be when all you hear about are IEDs exploding. And little to no news coverage of anything positive happening, even though it is happening. And now the MSM is caught in a sticky spot. They DON'T talk with the troops. They DON'T talk to the Iraqis. They are completely removed and even feel that they are above talking to the "uneducated" men and women in uniform. Chris Matthews said as much recently. The MSM haven't been able to sucessfully go after Laura Ingraham's accusations. Why? Because as usual, she has a strong point, and just like most of the lefties on her show, they end up sputtering because she, as usual, outwitted them with her superior intellect and biting remarks.

But hey, far be it for me to come between you and Laura I. Carry on with the hero worship.

I don't "hero worship" Laura Ingraham. She happens to be my favorite pundit, and with good reason.