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[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I agree with that to a point, GD, but not wholely.

Leo, none of what you point out (which I don't necessarily disagree with) changes the fact that in that climate, history has shown a 0% chance of success. Every attempt has resulted in a paralell move (either to a new dicatator or to open civil war). So what good has been done by attempting? Especially making an attempt like this one in Iraq where more and more of the those that were part of the planning of the initial invasion are revealing that no one had done their research and they had absolutely no clue what kind of enemy they were facing. Doomed from the start.

here is Saddam not giving fully unfettered access as required by the cease fire agreement. There are multiple foreign intelligence sources who also said they had WMD. There were violated UN resolutions and.....

And none of THAT changes the fact that, whether you want to believe there was some sort of WMD/UN resolution-based justification for going in or not, the "liberating Iraq" angle is nothing but pure spin from the administration. It was never part of their pre-war thought process, it was a total after thought, at best a "I guess that'll be a nice side effect," as evidenced by their complete failure to consider what it would mean to actually try to build a viable nation. They weren't unprepaired because they didn't understand what they needed to do...the were unprepaired because they didn't give a rat's ass what they needed to do.