100,000 Protestors... Angry mobs of students...

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

but it WAS a Dem flyer in the post-

I could make that flyer in about 15 minutes, change the word "democrat" to "republican" and post it here. Would the picture I posted be accepted by you as an official endorsment of your party?

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser

I could make that flyer in about 15 minutes, change the word "democrat" to "republican" and post it here. Would the picture I posted be accepted by you as an official endorsment of your party?

LOL- unless I actively denouced it, I can be fairly certain of being painted with that brush. Yes.....

Though someone else had this observation-

This is an issue that Democrats and Republicans ought to be united about; and I hope that many are.

But now comes word that the Far-Left elements of the Democratic Party were out over the weekend recruiting voters among immigration protesters. I cannot think of an example of how fragmented the 'Rats are, than the example they are providing here today!

There are a lot of people who are Democrats, that ought to be as pissed off about this as I am. I resent being painted as anti-immigration about this, when in reality I am anti-Illegal Immigration. Many of my Democratic friends feel the same way I do about this and resent the hell out of the far-left extremists in the Party that keep hijacking the message to suit their own Political views, and end up white-washing everybody else as extremists too...

It's amazing that the National Democratic leadership just cannot find the guts to come out an denounce at least some of the nonsense that's going on out there. In essence, the message that is being put out is that the 'Rats will do anything to compromise their own Country, their own Safety, and their own self respect, all in a quest to score another far-left point.

and of course I am looking for more info- but frankly people here will choose what to believe. That's not my job.

Yet another link with good info

The partisan defense is also a waste- they ALL screwed up. But to deny the vote pandering by EITHER party is dishonest.

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

LOL- unless I actively denouced it, I can be fairly certain of being painted with that brush. Yes.....

Ah, but the question wasn't "would others accept it and attribute it to your beliefs?", but rather "would you accept it?". My point was simply to suggest that the picture you posted a link to has no way of being authenticated as coming from the democrats and I highly doubt that it did.

And just for the record, I happen to not side with the democrats position on illegal immigration.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Show us some evidence that that flyer was produced and endorsed by the Democratic party.

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Show us some evidence that that flyer was produced and endorsed by the Democratic party.

Um, no.

First off, I don't have "proof", secondly I find that request to show a naive view that is unlike you. Are you going to deny that the politicians see votes in all this? Shall we discuss that one of the people speaking at one of the rallies is not a member of the GOP but the King of Dems himself Ted Kennedy?

Are you really going to cast up a defense against this by demanding proof you know I can not provide and pretending that Dems, whether they be local or national are NOT going to be fishing for ways to make this good for them?

Come on- even I know that both sides are going to be seeing future voters here- and want to garner their favor.

[scaeagles]

One thing I've heard in the news (and coverage of the rally in Phoenix this morning confirms it) is that the organizers are becoming a bit more politically savvy.

During the rallies held a couple weeks ago, there was an overwhelmingly pro-Mexico flavor. This was not received well in the general public. So this time, so far here in Phoenix, there is not a Mexican flag in sight. Stars and Stripes flying everywhere, pro-America t-shirts abound.

[scaeagles]

Perhaps the INS operates under different rules. I know that local police forces are not permitted to do because of a case in a Phoenix suburb (Chandler) where the police department started making inquiries into the legal status of people gathering at day laborer hangouts. Quite the uproar, and the government of Chandler had to pay out some hefty damages in a lawsuit.

[Nephythys]

Link- better stated than I am, especially today

[Gemini Cricket]

Huge protest here in Boston. At 4pm, there were large groups meeting at Boston Common. There was also a long line of protestors parading down the Freedom Trail. Really neat to see all these people coming out and voicing their opinions. I don't know how many people were there. Too many to count.

[scaeagles]

The rally here in Phoenix, slated to start at 1:00pm local time, has a crowd of less than half of what was expected. They were planning on 100,000, but the estimates on the radio I've heard are anywhere from 20-40K.

I read that Pittburgh got about 100 (not 100,000 - but an actual 100 people), but that Dallas yesterday got over 500,000.