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Old 04-11-2006, 11:14 AM   #1
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Democrats- the party of the dead, the felons and the illegals. No, not EVERY single individual in the party wants it that way- but it is what it is.
Were these the words that were twisted?

Careful please. Them's were very close to fightin' words.
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Old 04-10-2006, 11:24 PM   #2
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Old 04-10-2006, 11:42 PM   #3
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*(I'm lying- I think fraud in any way is wrong, and I hope anyone engaging or profiting by it is nailed to the frikken wall- particularily voter fraud).
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Old 04-11-2006, 05:29 AM   #4
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Thousands of people at the Boston protest. It's weird, though. The local TV news report last night said only 2,000 people were there. The Metro paper reported 10,000. The Globe said 5,000-7,000.
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Old 04-11-2006, 07:23 AM   #5
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The same thing always happens. Driving home the other night I had the radio pretty much on scan for several hours and caught a lot of reports of the huge Dallas march from a half dozen different sources and not one of them gave the same number (ranged from 125,000 from ABC News up to 600,000 from some news I didn't catch). My general practice is to take the report from the event sponsors and cut it in half; take the report from the opposition and double it. Then I figure the actual number was somewhere in that range.
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Whatever the actual numbers are, I think it's clear that immigration reform is becoming, or has already become, the most protested issue since the Vietnam war.

This saddens me a bit. Although immigration reform is still runnig second to the Iraq war as issues Americans are concerned with (according to pollsters), I find it disheartening that more people will take to the streets on immigration.
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I find it disheartening that more people will take to the streets on immigration.
I completely agree.
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Old 04-11-2006, 09:22 AM   #8
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Immigrants are physically here. Iraq is over there, somewhere, and not on the list of vacation hot spots. Plus, immigration is something people can debate without automatically falling into the "imperialist war-monger" v. "un-patriotic terrorist sympathizer" trap.
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Well, the current protests seem to replace "imperialist vs. traitor" with "racist vs. traitor."

But yeah, I'd say it is mostly because all the people most directly affected by the issue are here. With the Iraq war the people most directly affected aren't here in numbers and those who are tend to support the war (my sample is small but all the Iranians I know are generally supportive; as you might expect since the previous circumstance was generally the reason they were over here in the first place).
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With the Iraq war the people most directly affected aren't here in numbers and those who are tend to support the war (my sample is small but all the Iranians I know are generally supportive; as you might expect since the previous circumstance was generally the reason they were over here in the first place).
Do you mean Iraqis or are you referring to the lengthy Iran-Iraq war (which I would figure resulted in many Iraqis and Iranians fleeing the area)?
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